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  • #46
    Originally posted by vince View Post
    No. Holmgren was a classic conservative in those situations. Now I gotta go figure out how to dig up proof of that.
    All I'm really saying is a completed pass to a back or a slashing WR is the same as a run. We completed passes like that pretty often today to Cobb.

    Oh, well. I've got to run. The post game rants helped me blow off steam at least.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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    • #47
      Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
      Makes sense to me. I don't give a rats ass who thought what. All I know is we had the game in the bag and then blew it when we started getting conservative on both sides of the ball. Sure, some players screwed up individual plays but it all went downhill in a hurry qith that conservative bullshit.
      And it's not hindsight. Even the peanut gallery noted the anal puckering in the final 8 minutes. Both D & O

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
        Again, at the risk of beating this dead horse, not every coach in the league runs three times in that situation. Mike Holmgren, for instance, would have figured out a way to throw for the first...and complete the throws...maybe on all three downs.
        Absolutely, I wanted to pass there - pass there to win the game, right there, right then. You've got the best QB in the league - forget the clock!! Get 1st downs, and the clock will take care of itself.

        Crawl into a shell at your own peril... and of course as often as not, it ends badly. I'd rather go down swinging with my best stuff.

        I agree with the comment about Belicheater - he's a foot on your throat finisher... he absolutely would be passing there, and I would have been too. Stubby's nature is to crawl into a shell, and so is dunderdummy's - it cost us a shot at Superbowl this season.

        On to next year
        wist

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        • #49
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Yep. He was a classic trust you defense guy.
          Well, it is easy to trust a defense with Reggie White, LeRoy Butler, Gilbert Brown, etc. That defense is not our current defense.
          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Hoody play the odds too, but they have an ultra efficient shot passing game that gets someone open short every time.

            Did you see a Packer receiver running horizontally who was open at any point during the game? Cobb got pulled down twice on flat routes.

            It would have had to be a down field throw unlike BB. BB also has Gronk.
            Peyton Manning and the Broncos play a lot of the short passing game which seems unstoppable.
            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Iron Mike View Post


              Enjoy next year's season in Oakland, Mr. Bostic.

              Will "bostic" now become a verb?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                Oh, well. I've got to run. The post game rants helped me blow off steam at least.
                you have been gaseous

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by vince View Post
                  I didn't think the Packers would be able to hang, much less dominate. They did though. And now it's the coaches fault. That makes no sense. They got what everyone regards as an inferior team on the road to the brink of victory, and there were some unfathomable mistakes by players on the field that snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. And it's the coaches' fault? I disagree.
                  So if the coaches go away from the game plan that put you in a position to win and decide to just sit on the ball and hope the time runs out...that isn't the coaching staff's fault?

                  STICK WITH THE FUCKING GAME PLAN THAT HAS YOU WINNING! Don't go into a fucking shell and play not to lose when playing to win is what got you in the good position to begin with.
                  It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                    you have been gaseous
                    I haven't checked my underwear, but at my age I'm usually not just gaseous alone.
                    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                    • #55
                      shart attack!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                        I haven't checked my underwear, but at my age I'm usually not just gaseous alone.
                        Too much information...

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                          I haven't checked my underwear, but at my age I'm usually not just gaseous alone.
                          Do you need a young Russian wife?

                          After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                            If you're not upset you're in denial.

                            Isn't there five steps to the grieving process and denial is the first one? I believe so.
                            Esoxx I burdened myself all week as to how to view this game. I admit I was conflicted.

                            I tried so hard to lie to myself early this week but it just didn't get there. That consistently growing gut feeling that the Packers would pull out a win.

                            By Friday and certainly yesterday I felt the Packers would lose the game and I supported that with analysis. That hurt like hell. I predicted a score based on analysis that was very close to the actual result.

                            I don't feel good at all about any of it. This week was just terrible and I wanted the game on and over with.

                            This loss is just horrible.

                            I thought that Aaron Rodgers looked way too casual out there today? The receiver routes? Rodgers and his receivers weren't on the same page today. WTF was going on there? Was Aaron Rodgers on some pain killer that affected his ability to get the feel he needed and failed to demonstrate?

                            Still we all felt the win was close. How must Julius peppers feel? Damn !

                            I felt a Packer win late in that game. Suddenly that outcome became severely remote. So what of the Packer future? What will 'the Powers To Be ' decide upon as a strategy next season? Ohh yea ! Russell Wilson will get his new contract.

                            Forecast:

                            Seattle to fall back to us by becoming weaker?

                            That will have Dick All to do with blowing it in Seattle today. Every member of Packer Nation should be on the same page and admit this loss in Seattle was simply unacceptable as that game went.
                            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                              Why? Sherman had one good arm at that point. Thomas was dinged up in the game. The Seahawks had not mounted a capable pass rush for most of the game. Their ONLY strong point on defense at that point was stopping the run...and you basically concede the 3-and-out to that strength. As a coach, you need to dictate the strengths and weaknesses to your advantage. That is what wins games. McCarthy clearly did not do this in the last 6+ minutes of this game.
                              When you pass the ball late in the game there are 5 possible scenarios - most (three) of which are killers (interception, sack-fumble, and incompletion which results in go gain and runs no time off the clock) one is bad (sack) and one is good (positive yardage with the clock running).
                              When you run the ball late in the game, there are 3 possible scenarios, one of which is a killer (fumble), one is bad (no gain or loss) and one is good (positive yardage.
                              The killers are so bad that they need to be avoided at all costs. Get the job done and run out the clock.

                              They couldn't run out the clock AND THEY STILL HAD THE GAME WON. Throw the ball and one of those majority of killer or bad things happen and THE GAME IS MADE FAR MORE DIFFICULT TO WIN.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Iron Mike View Post


                                Enjoy next year's season in Oakland, Mr. Bostic.
                                The Canadian Border is closed to him until he shows proof that he has had an eye examination.
                                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                                ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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