Not even upset

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

When you pass the ball late in the game there are 5 possible scenarios - most (three) of which are killers (interception, sack-fumble, and incompletion) one is bad (sack) and one is good (positive yardage with the clock running).
When you run the ball late in the game, there are 3 possible scenarios, one of which is a killer (fumble), one is bad (no gain or loss) and one is good (positive yardage.
The killers are so bad that they need to be avoided at all costs. Get the job done and run out the clock.

They couldn't run out the clock AND THEY STILL HAD THE GAME WON. Throw the ball and one of those majority of killer things happen and THE GAME IS NOT WON.

Your probabilities may be ok for an average team, but the packers got to this point with a highly effective passing attack and the best qb in football. You play to your strengths at times like that. You DON'T suddenly grow a vagina and let the other team win the game.

[vince]

I agree with the comment about Belicheater - he's a foot on your throat finisher... he absolutely would be passing there, and I would have been too. Stubby's nature is to crawl into a shell, and so is dunderdummy's - it cost us a shot at Superbowl this season.

On to next year

Wrong. You made this claim about Bellichick before and I went back and pulled stat splits on run vs. pass late in games with the lead. Bellichick runs the ball every time in that situation too.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

And I hate this thread too. Ya goddamn right I'm upset. How many times do we get to a game like this? How many do I have left? We had an excellent chance to win this game and fucked it away, plain and simple.

[woodbuck27]

All I'm really saying is a completed pass to a back or a slashing WR is the same as a run. We completed passes like that pretty often today to Cobb.

Oh, well. I've got to run. The post game rants helped me blow off steam at least.

Thanks for all you contributed this week it was interesting stuff.

Your new contract is in the mail.

[King Friday]

They couldn't run out the clock AND THEY STILL HAD THE GAME WON. Throw the ball and one of those majority of killer things happen and THE GAME IS NOT WON.

We had the game won? That is the exact kind of mentality that loses games. The Packers NEVER had this game won because we failed to capitalize on opportunities early in the game to score TDs to actually put the game away.

[vince]

Your probabilities may be ok for an average team, but the packers got to this point with a highly effective passing attack and the best qb in football. You play to your strengths at times like that. You DON'T suddenly grow a vagina and let the other team win the game.

No you don't grow a vagina, you get big balls and pound it down their throat with your bruising 230 lb. beast of a back. That's when you man-up, go mano-a-mano and win the fucking game. That's what they did even though it was pulled out from underneath them.

[pbmax]

I might have to go back and see what was leaking on the left side of the line on the drive where they were driving Lacy backwards.

[Upnorth]

This loss sucks hard. That being said I feel that MM conservative play calling makes some sense. His defense held them for most of the game, the offense on the other hand was doing better running than passing. But since we lost he must be an idiot right??? Special teams sucks right? on the touchdown hawk played a Ryan run, which makes sense, the coverage behind him was bad, and I don't know where that went wrong yet. But in the end if Bostic hauls in that ball instead of 'looking for someone to block '... ah fuck.

[Rutnstrut]

I agree here. It was obvious after 1st down that Seattle was selling out to stop Lacy. Should have been throwing the ball on 2nd down.

Add to that a the fact that Sherman had a bad wing, and it makes even less sense that they didn't throw.

[Rutnstrut]

We had the game won? That is the exact kind of mentality that loses games. The Packers NEVER had this game won because we failed to capitalize on opportunities early in the game to score TDs to actually put the game away.

Actually they never had it won because stubby had a lead and had them play chickenshit football.

[King Friday]

No you don't grow a vagina, you get big balls and pound it down their throat with your bruising 230 lb. beast of a back. That's when you man-up, go mano-a-mano and win the fucking game. That's what they did even though it was pulled out from underneath them.

So tell me again...why do we pay Aaron Rodgers $20M a year? We better draft nothing but RBs and OL players this year.

[digitaldean]

I don't get not attacking the 1 arm bandit Sherman. The D played great overall until the last 1/2 quarter and OT. That balloon of a 2pt conversion pass was misplayed by Clinton-Dix. And WHY does Burnett go to the ground when he had at least 20 freaking yards in front of him on that last INT?

[Upnorth]

So tell me again...why do we pay Aaron Rodgers $20M a year? We better draft nothing but RBs and OL players this year.

Our oline is solid. I think you were using hyperbole but our oline doesn't get the credit it deserves

[pbmax]

Our oline is solid. I think you were using hyperbole but our oline doesn't get the credit it deserves

I agree with this and vince's approach. But there was no way they were getting a first down running it at the end of the game when the Seachickens were selling out 9 in the box.

[Smidgeon]

They couldn't run out the clock AND THEY STILL HAD THE GAME WON. Throw the ball and one of those majority of killer or bad things happen and THE GAME IS MADE FAR MORE DIFFICULT TO WIN.

I came in expecting a loss. Then the Packers dominated the first 55 minutes of play, had Seattle down to one timeout in a two possession game. All the Defense had to do was slow down the Seattle offense--one that was inept most of the game--in order to win. They didn't even have to stop the offense. They just had to slow it down.

That's why this loss sucks so much. It was in the bag and then either terrible play or terrible playcalling on the defense (i.e. based on the play of the defense the last half of the year after either insufficient coaching that led to miscommunications in the back end or playcalling that led to large spots in the d wide open) doomed the game.

Seattle deserved to be embarrassed and not make it to the Super Bowl. As much as I want to blame Slocum or Bostick, this failure is on the defense...and I believe on the defensive coaching staff.