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  • #76
    Originally posted by vince View Post
    It's the players who are accountable. They didn't get it done and it's not because they were schemed out of position. The plays were right there.

    Take their fucking diapers off - take your fucking diapers off - and recognize that they just didn't get it done for long enough to get the win.

    The coach didn't send them into some mind-numbing or hyper-seensitive emotional state. He didn't let up on the gas. They never had any gas.

    These childish excuses about not having the right emotional state, not doing enough trash-talking, or whatever else is being dreamed up - are ridiculous. They smelled blood, but the other team was pretty fucking good too and sometimes they win.
    .....and lack of leadership on the defensive side of the ball. After the pick, Clay puts on the hat and is waiting to leave the building, Peppers tells him to take the slide. Where was the player getting in the faces of the defensive players screaming at them that there are 5 minutes left?? The defense was in the zone for 55 minutes and then was just waiting to get out of there.

    Lynch was dancing on teh sidelines and couldn't wait to get out there at that exact same time.
    After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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    • #77
      What gets me about the fake FG TD was that it came down to if Brad Jones was on the field or not. They knew he was a key liability from film study.
      C.H.U.D.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
        What gets me about the fake FG TD was that it came down to if Brad Jones was on the field or not. They knew he was a key liability from film study.
        Do you really think it was Brad Jones doing whatever he felt like???
        I suspect it was knowing what Slocum was asking Brad Jones to do whenever he was in the game.

        The fact that Chad Morton who MM fired last year from STs, now is ST assistant for Seattle might have had a lot to do with knowing what players did what in different situations

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        • #79
          What I'm saying is SEA had a play drawn up just for that situation....whether that's on the player or coach you decide.
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
            What I'm saying is SEA had a play drawn up just for that situation....whether that's on the player or coach you decide.
            Sorry. I've seen quite a few posters railing on Jones for doing that, and I suspect Jones is only doing what they want him to do. I think the fake succeeded because GB/Slocum was so predictable, especially because Chad Morton is in Seattle with the inside dope on Slocum from his time in GB.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Patler View Post
              Sorry. I've seen quite a few posters railing on Jones for doing that, and I suspect Jones is only doing what they want him to do. I think the fake succeeded because GB/Slocum was so predictable, especially because Chad Morton is in Seattle with the inside dope on Slocum from his time in GB.
              Jones wasn't the guy who let a receiver slip behind him for the TD
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #82
                Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                Jones wasn't the guy who let a receiver slip behind him for the TD
                So you are blaming Hawk?

                I think as the play unfolded, Hawk made the right decision, since House was out to lunch on the play and stood there watching Ryan run past him. If Hawk goes with the receiver, Ryan picks up the 1st down easily and probably a lot more. Hawk prevented that and put pressure on Ryan in making the throw. He prevented the run for a first and made the throw more difficult. Therefore he impacted both options Ryan had. At that point, you hope for a bad throw from a punter, a drop by the tackle-elligible receiver, or enough recovery by one of the little, quick guys to get back on the receiver.

                House could have done what Hawk did, allowing Hawk to go with the receiver. When he didn't, Hawk tried to make the best out of a quickly deteriorating situation.

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                • #83
                  If that is the design, its another in a long line of bad Slocum plans.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    If that is the design, its another in a long line of bad Slocum plans.
                    That's just it. House was on the end, took a few steps at the snap, then stopped standing up as Ryan started to get up. House did nothing until Ryan was well outside of him when he finally turned to follow. Since House clearly was not firing off in an attempt to disrupt the kick, I can only assume he had some responsibility in the event of a fake or botch. Otherwise, he was serving no earthly purpose on the play at all.

                    MM said he loves Slocum's "creativity". This may be an example of it.

                    By coming up, Hawk at least forced Ryan to throw. With a punter throwing to a tackle, anything can happen. If Hawk went with the receiver, he was conceding the first down to Ryan by running, because there was no one else close.

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                    • #85
                      Not to pick at the scab too much, but for those who didn't really seen the open green in front of Burnett I offer you the full-22 image just after the pick.


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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        If Hawk went with the receiver, he was conceding the first down to Ryan by running, because there was no one else close.
                        I've watched replay several times, what you are saying is not true. Ryan had long way to go for first and two Packers between him and marker. McGinn watched replay closely too
                        Hawk was stationed behind the FG block front for his experience, not his athleticism. His mistake — running up on fourth and 10 when the punter couldn't hurt the Packers instead of staying back on the man who could — probably was as egregious as Bostick's.
                        http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...289108751.html

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                        • #87
                          This is the big thing to me. I have a feeling when that happened, it woke up a defeated team. They saw this shit and got pissed off! They were on their sideline seething "these fuckers think the game is over"! They left everything on the field the last 5 minutes. You can't play football that way or anything else for that matter....It obviously carried over to the defense as well....totally different team after that!

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                          • #88
                            I'm with HH. I think House might have tracked down Ryan before he reached the marker. It would have been close. And I understand Hawk was just reacting, but it's a hell of a lot better to give up a first down then leave a guy wide open in the end zone.
                            Go PACK

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                            • #89
                              He coulda scored! fucking dumb.....

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                                And I understand Hawk was just reacting, but it's a hell of a lot better to give up a first down then leave a guy wide open in the end zone.
                                Hawk's first reaction was to cover the lumbering former TE. You can see it for full second. Then came the Bostick moment and it was, "Run, Forrest, run!" towards Ryan.

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