Please quit blaming the coaches.

[mraynrand]

More point in the first half likely means no Bostick moment.

less points too

[pbmax]

More point in the first half likely means no Bostick moment.

Or an earlier Bostick moment. You still have to deliver against a desperate offense at some point.

Advanced Football Stats can make a tremendously convincing argument how 4th and short near the goalline is an ideal time to go for it. Even if you do not score, you have the opponent trapped on the longest possible field, You are going to get great field position back, esp. in this game in the first half.

After a nap, my only complaint about the coaching strategies in the late second half is tapping the breaks on offense and defense. They weren't just running it on three downs, they put Burnett back deep (got an INT out of it too). If one side stays aggressive, might have been the difference.

[yetisnowman]

less points too

Of course the coaches share SOME blame. But I just can't get behind the venom towards McCarthy. Its 20-20 hindsight. He was conservative because that was the smart thing to do. The scoreboard and the game clock are your friend. Every coach is going to try and milk the clock in that situation. As I said if we tried to throw late and stopped the clock with incompletions and allowed them to keep their timeouts, ending in a GB loss, I'm pretty sure you guys would be railing him for that too. Then outcome is what sucks, the decisions were sound. Now if you want to say the coaches deserve a lot of blame for not getting certain players prepared to handle key situations, and execute that makes more sense. I don't necessarily agree, but that makes more sense.

[Teamcheez1]

MM had four different 4th & 1 situations during the game. Each time he chose not to go for it. That is playing way too conservative, and playing not to lose rather than win.

[ThunderDan]

MM had four different 4th & 1 situations during the game. Each time he chose not to go for it. That is playing way too conservative, and playing not to lose rather than win.

And if he went for it and they didn't get it people here would be screaming for MM's head.

I know this, you know this.

[Striker]

If the players were celebrating too early/thinking the game was over, then it's on the coaches to tell them to wake the fuck up and play out the remaining game.

[mraynrand]

MM had four different 4th & 1 situations during the game. Each time he chose not to go for it. That is playing way too conservative, and playing not to lose rather than win.

I disagree. He was playing to win, and was betting on his stifling defense to keep up the great work they were doing. And they did until Seattle got crazy desperate and the Packers (too early) thought they had the game sewed up. I don't blame Stubby for not questioning his strategy. It was insane. On a dime, the game changed from the Packers defense totally dominating Seattle to being utterly dominated.

[mraynrand]

If the players were celebrating too early/thinking the game was over, then it's on the coaches to tell them to wake the fuck up and play out the remaining game.

maybe the coaches did.

[domey]

Quit bringing up the coaches – why? The coaches are ultimately responsible for the team. I give you 3 clear cut examples of when players were following the direct orders of the coaches.

3rd and 19. All 3 rushers did not even attempt to rush Wilson. They just stood there, not even engaging the offensive lineman. Not a single one of them made an attempt to rush Wilson, even though the pressure had gotten to Wilson all game. Why did they do that? Did they decide to do that on their own? Of course not! Result, a first down for Seattle.

After Morgan Burnett’s interception: Lacy did not even attempt to break tackles, after the initial hit, he stopped moving his legs and just stood up.

After Burnett’s interception he drops to the ground, even with room in front of him.

All of these things are so totally against a player’s instincts, especially a professional player. They did not get to their level by not giving maximum effort. So, why did they do it? Although of course I have no proof of this, I highly suspect were told by their coaches to do it. Why? They told their players to be cautious, don’t make mistakes, we got this one, let just let the clock run down and get out of here.

Yeah, stop blaming the coaches.

[Bossman641]

Quit bringing up the coaches – why? The coaches are ultimately responsible for the team. I give you 3 clear cut examples of when players were following the direct orders of the coaches.

3rd and 19. All 3 rushers did not even attempt to rush Wilson. They just stood there, not even engaging the offensive lineman. Not a single one of them made an attempt to rush Wilson, even though the pressure had gotten to Wilson all game. Why did they do that? Did they decide to do that on their own? Of course not! Result, a first down for Seattle.

After Morgan Burnett’s interception: Lacy did not even attempt to break tackles, after the initial hit, he stopped moving his legs and just stood up.

After Burnett’s interception he drops to the ground, even with room in front of him.

All of these things are so totally against a player’s instincts, especially a professional player. They did not get to their level by not giving maximum effort. So, why did they do it? Although of course I have no proof of this, I highly suspect were told by their coaches to do it. Why? They told their players to be cautious, don’t make mistakes, we got this one, let just let the clock run down and get out of here.

Yeah, stop blaming the coaches.

I highly doubt the coaches told the players "ok if you get the pick here, drop to the ground"

[Freak Out]

You can argue both sides on the 4th down calls...many are saying he was smart to take the points....I have a problem with the 4th and inches from the goal line. (was it inches at the goal line or am I still drunk?)

[Joemailman]

You can argue both sides on the 4th down calls...many are saying he was smart to take the points....I have a problem with the 4th and inches from the goal line. (was it inches at the goal line or am I still drunk?)

I've heard it was 6 inches. Maybe MM was influenced by their failure to get it on 4thand 1 against Detroit 2 weeks earlier.

Rodgers' immobility hurt here. Normally he would have been rolling out on 3rd down with a pass/run option.

[yetisnowman]

Quit bringing up the coaches – why? The coaches are ultimately responsible for the team. I give you 3 clear cut examples of when players were following the direct orders of the coaches.

3rd and 19. All 3 rushers did not even attempt to rush Wilson. They just stood there, not even engaging the offensive lineman. Not a single one of them made an attempt to rush Wilson, even though the pressure had gotten to Wilson all game. Why did they do that? Did they decide to do that on their own? Of course not! Result, a first down for Seattle.

After Morgan Burnett’s interception: Lacy did not even attempt to break tackles, after the initial hit, he stopped moving his legs and just stood up.

After Burnett’s interception he drops to the ground, even with room in front of him.

All of these things are so totally against a player’s instincts, especially a professional player. They did not get to their level by not giving maximum effort. So, why did they do it? Although of course I have no proof of this, I highly suspect were told by their coaches to do it. Why? They told their players to be cautious, don’t make mistakes, we got this one, let just let the clock run down and get out of here.

Yeah, stop blaming the coaches.

OK on the third and 19 play I agree 100%, that was the one call I hated at the time, and I hate now. The other two are complete nonsense, Peppers signaled to get down.I highly doubt in 2 seconds Burnett heard or got some signal from the sideline to slide immediately. Your 3rd example is even more silly. You think the coaching staff told Lacy to intentionally not break tackles and lose yardage?

If you notice I said don't blame the coaching for the loss. Bring it up....fine. But the coaching should be far down the blame scale considering the players simply had to execute physically and do what they were coached to do. They failed. Like I have said, maybe the coaches are to blame for not having the players prepared to get way fuck out of the way, or stick your hand up and knock the ball down.

[red]

I've heard it was 6 inches. Maybe MM was influenced by their failure to get it on 4thand 1 against Detroit 2 weeks earlier.

Rodgers' immobility hurt here. Normally he would have been rolling out on 3rd down with a pass/run option.

it should have been at about the 1 inch line, but it was spotted at about the half yardline

the worst call imo was the wasted play to kuhn. the guy is shit. as soon as he gets touched he goes down, not much fight compared to what lacy was bringing. we need to get rid of kuhn just so we can get that fucking pathetic fullback dive out of the playbook.

you have a hammer for a RB, a punishing monster in lacy, god made him for tough short yardage plays

[wist43]

I'll give MM a pass for the play calling in the first half when we had to settle for FG's - even though the playcalling was horrific.

Where MM gets the blame is at the end of the game when he went into kill the clock mode with 5:00 minutes. Good googly-moogly, there's 5 bloody minutes left in the game - that's forever in the NFL!!! and it was less than a 2 score game??

Yes, this loss falls entirely on MM and dunderdummy. MM needs to look in the mirror to see if he still has balls, and dunderdummy needs to be sent out to pasture. The coaching at the end of this game was pathetic - absolutely pathetic.