Another Patriot Scandal??

[Rutnstrut]

I am no fan of the Commish, but how is he ignoring PEDs?

You can't tell me they aren't widespread in the NFL. If they punished everyone, the NFL would make no money. Hell I would bet money that Green Bay's own Clay Mathews is a juicer, or for sure was. There is no way he went from as scrawny as he was, to what he did is with just hard work.

[pbmax]

You can't tell me they aren't widespread in the NFL. If they punished everyone, the NFL would make no money. Hell I would bet money that Green Bay's own Clay Mathews is a juicer, or for sure was. There is no way he went from as scrawny as he was, to what he did is with just hard work.

1. The NFL tests for Olympic list banned substances. I don't think they are widespread in the NFL with one exception. Compared to the testing regimen for recreational drugs, the PED testing is logical, random and pretty frequent.
2. Its possible the users are ahead of the testers, but that is true of every sport and not confined to Goodell's stewardship.
3. The one test they weren't running was HGH and that is scheduled to change soon. I am certain its used, though not like Bonds used it to reshape his head.
4. Of ALL the charges that can be made about testing, ignoring results isn't one I have seen. You don't offer evidence except -
5. Matthews body change. However, much or all of that happened in college, not under Goodell's control.

[Carolina_Packer]

You can't tell me they aren't widespread in the NFL. If they punished everyone, the NFL would make no money. Hell I would bet money that Green Bay's own Clay Mathews is a juicer, or for sure was. There is no way he went from as scrawny as he was, to what he did is with just hard work.

Clay might be doing Cenegenics!

[mraynrand]

What's not being mentioned is that Brady will also lose 2 million dollars in game checks for this 4 games

He can make that up in a day doing commercials for Pirelli Run Flat™ Tires.

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LOL

you can't make this shit up. the pats set up a whole website to blast everything that ted wells found

one of the biggest claims?

the ball boy didn't refer to himself as the "deflator" in texts because he was the guy deflating the footballs, he called himself that because he was fat and trying to lose weight

wow

[sharpe1027]

LOL

you can't make this shit up. the pats set up a whole website to blast everything that ted wells found

one of the biggest claims?

the ball boy didn't refer to himself as the "deflator" in texts because he was the guy deflating the footballs, he called himself that because he was fat and trying to lose weight

wow

You can't make that type of shit up. I can honestly say I have never heard someone refer to their weight loss as deflation. Maybe it is an East Coast thing?

[Pugger]

yeah, if brady reallyt did lie to the pats about the whole thing then they should be furious, instead they "have his back"

Isn't the Patriot way?

[mraynrand]

LOL

you can't make this shit up. the pats set up a whole website to blast everything that ted wells found

one of the biggest claims?

the ball boy didn't refer to himself as the "deflator" in texts because he was the guy deflating the footballs, he called himself that because he was fat and trying to lose weight

wow

Flounder letting the air out of Dean Wormer's tires.

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Flounder letting the air out of Dean Wormer's tires.

someone need to make a cartoon of a fat guy eating a hot dog while sitting on a football with air escaping the ball under all the weight

[Smidgeon]

Stuff like this keeps making the Patriots look worse and worse to me:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/14/roderick-mackinnon-is-scientific-co-founder-of-company-kraft-group-invested-in/

That being said, it's not going to change Brady being one of the best QBs of all time. It's not going to change Belichick having coached the team to four super bowl wins and two more appearances (I think only two more). It's not going to change the Patriots' place in history as one of the most successful franchises in the 2000s. It will change my personal opinion about their reputation, for whatever that's worth, and I will occasionally wonder how much of an edge the cheating actually got them.

But the entitlement of being a Patriot should end now. No more golden calf status. Unless we're talking post Moses coming down from the mountain and melting that thing into soup. Then we can commence the comparative again.

[mraynrand]

But the entitlement of being a Patriot should end now. No more golden calf status. Unless we're talking post Moses coming down from the mountain and melting that thing into soup. Then we can commence the comparative again.

This is the kind of verbal diarrhea that allows them to get away with cheating. "OK, you've snookered us again and again, but do it ONE MORE TIME and THEN we'll get REALLY mad! We mean it!"

[mraynrand]

"I've been obsessed with Tom Brady my entire life. Even though I was there, I have no idea how the balls deflated."

[George Cumby]

Everyone's favorite pundit, Ask Vic, suggested vacating the SB trophy. I don't disagree. Talk about sending the message that Mom and Dad are pissed and they fucking mean business. Nobody would fuck with the balls after that.

[pbmax]

Karlos Dansby now trying to start a fire in the Patriots backyard.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/14/dansby-suspects-foul-play-from-2008-game-in-new-england/

In 2008, Dansby’s Cardinals faced the Patriots in New England during Week 16 of the 2008 season. The Patriots needed a win to keep their postseason hopes alive. And Dansby said the coach-to-headset communication system, which was first implemented by the NFL in 2008, didn’t function at Gillette Stadium during that snowy day in December.

“My headset was working fine, every game,” Dansby said. “Until the very last game of the year. We get in Foxboro, they couldn’t get my headset fixed, for nothing in the world.”

In that same game, Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart also had trouble with his own headset. Leinart’s former backup at USC, Matt Cassel, three for 345 yards and three touchdowns in a 47-7 rout.

Leinart also had trouble in that game: http://archive.azcentral.com/sports/...cardsside.html

[vince]

Bretsky to the rescue?