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  • #16
    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    Not the coach's fault directly or absolutely. But if they switch to a prevent mode, I think it's inevitable that the players respond to that mentality. It was too early. Shoulda stayed aggressive. But coaches worry about desperate teams in four down territory and adjust to that too. So it's not a simple equation.

    Still on the 2 point conversion, there was shell shock there, the QB was well defensed and HHCD just made a physical error (misjudged the ball) and was unlucky - undoubtably the wind carried that thing.
    I can agree with that but the emotionally driven overreaction on the other side is ridiculous. It was a horrendous sequence but being apolgists for the players who didn't execute is missing the boat in my opinion. They were the better team for most of the game and should have been the better team for the whole game. Shell shock at the end was brought on by Bostick 100 times more than any strategic coaching effort to control the clock.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by vince View Post
      I can agree with that but the emotionally driven overreaction on the other side is ridiculous. It was a horrendous sequence but being apolgists for the players who didn't execute is missing the boat in my opinion. They were the better team for most of the game and should have been the better team for the whole game. Shell shock at the end was brought on by Bostick 100 times more than any strategic coaching effort to control the clock.
      It's on the coaches and players. The mentality trickles down, and it's on the coaches to knock some sense into them if they do appear to be letting up.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by vince View Post
        Shell shock at the end was brought on by Bostick 100 times more than any strategic coaching effort to control the clock.
        Maybe. But the change in defensive mentality preceded the onside kick.
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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        • #19
          i said in the game day thread after the second FG from the 1 that i thought we had just lost the game

          i play action would have been perfect there

          really though, if you're in that situation when the coach is telling you that we have to run the ball to kill the clock, or you really gonna throw that out the window and change things up?

          if a rod has the ability to do whatever he wants, then why even have the idiot on the sideline calling plays?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by red View Post
            i said in the game day thread after the second FG from the 1 that i thought we had just lost the game

            i play action would have been perfect there

            really though, if you're in that situation when the coach is telling you that we have to run the ball to kill the clock, or you really gonna throw that out the window and change things up?

            if a rod has the ability to do whatever he wants, then why even have the idiot on the sideline calling plays?
            How much play action did you see once Rodgers reinsured his calf?

            The only thing they were doing was a mesh handoff option throw. That can hold one player, it doesn't hold both backers like a PA from the center.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              How much play action did you see once Rodgers reinsured his calf?

              The only thing they were doing was a mesh handoff option throw. That can hold one player, it doesn't hold both backers like a PA from the center.
              he was moving around in the pocket just fine though

              and that fact that we hadn't seen any play action since he got hurt means it would have been a perfect time for it

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              • #22
                Originally posted by vince View Post
                Media and fan emotion characterizations don't make it real.

                Everyone watching could feel the Packers losing control of the game. The question was could they hang onto enough to hold them off. They needed to punch the Seahawks in the mouth and out-execute them to get to the game's end.

                I think momentum is real in football and Seattle obviously had it at the end but you gotta fight to offset and and get it back. Seattle's pretty good at keeping it when they get it.
                Yes.

                Once a team tightens up in any sport it relinquishes all control to the aggressiveness of the other.

                That is so true in the game we love. Hockey. You must not get back on your heals.

                It's much the same in football.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by vince View Post
                  The Packers DIDN'T "LET UP". They fought their asses off and fucked up the game at the same time.
                  They were taking knees after INTs with 5 minutes left in the game...then went to run-run-run-punt.

                  That is the Webster's dictionary definition to the letter of "letting up".

                  AARON FUCKING RODGERS IS THE BEST QB IN THE GAME...YOU PAY HIM FUCKING RIDICULOUS MONEY...SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SCARED TO LET HIM ACTUALLY USE A REGULAR OFFENSE WHEN IT COUNTS TO WIN A GAME?

                  Nah...why do that? Let's run-run-run-punt and hope our prevent defense is capable of stopping anyone inside of 90 seconds...and then hope our special teams knows what a football looks like and which team jersey is which.
                  It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                  • #24
                    RODGERS GAY TAIL IS A MO'FO BEAST!!

                    fatboy McCarthy is sabotaging his career...

                    BRING BLACK RHODES!!!
                    Brandon Marshall, MAN...!!
                    Jimmie Johnson: Nascar's G.O.A.T......

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      How much play action did you see once Rodgers reinsured his calf?
                      Did he get a discount double check?

                      They could not run conventional play action with Rodgers' calf...not that McCarthy would actually ever think to use conventional play action even though it makes perfect sense to with what we have on offense.
                      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                        Did he get a discount double check?

                        They could not run conventional play action with Rodgers' calf...not that McCarthy would actually ever think to use conventional play action even though it makes perfect sense to with what we have on offense.
                        He runs it all the time, just not with the fanatical devotion of Gary Kubiak or Boomer Esiason. I will say I wish he ran it more in the red zone.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          He runs it all the time, just not with the fanatical devotion of Gary Kubiak or Boomer Esiason. I will say I wish he ran it more in the red zone.
                          He doesn't run conventional play action...which is especially useful in the red zone. That is why our red zone offense is horrific. He runs play action out of the shotgun and all this other silly stuff. How many times did he actually run a play action fake this year when Lacy and Kuhn were lined up behind Rodgers? I'm guessing you could count the number with one hand with a few fingers left over.
                          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                            He doesn't run conventional play action...which is especially useful in the red zone. That is why our red zone offense is horrific. He runs play action out of the shotgun and all this other silly stuff. How many times did he actually run a play action fake this year when Lacy and Kuhn were lined up behind Rodgers? I'm guessing you could count the number with one hand with a few fingers left over.
                            I google packer play action and got this on the first link:

                            As he almost always does, Rodgers still managed to take a shot -- and connect on it -- down the field to Nelson. On a play-action shot play in the fourth quarter, Rodgers hit Jordy Nelson for a 60-yard touchdown. It was Nelson's seventh touchdown catch of 40-plus yards this season, which tied a team record.

                            Do you want me to continue?
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Infamous View Post
                              RODGERS GAY TAIL IS A MO'FO BEAST!!

                              fatboy McCarthy is sabotaging his career...

                              BRING BLACK RHODES!!!
                              RESURECTION!
                              C.H.U.D.

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