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  • Winners and Losers of GB VS CINN

    Sorry for the delay, but when you spill a Screw Driver all over your labtop bad things tend to happen to the old motherboard. Don't worry, I got a warranty. Anyways, what a god awful display we all had to witness last night. This team may have talent, but it sure ain't on the offensive line. These guys are just painful most of the times and I am just not talking about Spitz and Moll. The tackles, Tauscher and Clifton are playing like first year rookies with there head up there butts. This team is critically young, and they simply can't take set backs. When things start to unravel against veteran teams, they seem to have the mental capability to get their heads screwed on right, and come back and play some solid football, but not young teams. they simply fall apart. They drop passes, miss blocking assignments, blow reads, miss tackles, and blow coverages. It is a slippery slope with Young and inexperienced teams. Even in 2003 the Packers were more than capable of coming back and playing winning football after a Favre fumble, or interception for a score. You can't expect this team to do the same, what you can expect is that this team will crumble and lose by 30 points.

    Winners

    1. Ryan Pickett, with him in the middle teams simply can't dislodge him to gain yards on the ground. He is able to penatrate and force the running back to make his cut or move before his blocking has time to set up. As a whole as was impressed with only one aspect of this Packer football team and it was the first string defense's ability to stop the run and it starts with the defensive tackles.

    2. Al Harris, Harris really has Chad Jackson's number. Jackson was held to zero catches by Harris, which must make Harris and his agent very happy. Harris hasn't lost a step, he proved that last night, he might have lost a bit of motivation in the first two preseason games based on his contract situation. Unfortunately the opposite rings true for the other starting corner.

    3. Ahman Green, Green made chicken salad out of chicken shit last night. Green runs extremely hard and extremely fast. At the very least he has not lost a step from last year, before the injury. He did slip once in the backfield, but the field contitions were in question last night, and a slip was understandable. Green missed a pass from Favre, although Favre did wing it at him before he had he had a chance to look for the ball. Green is still the Packers best option at the running back position.

    Losers,

    The offensive line via Ted Thompson, the man just doesn't get the importance of a veteran line, and with that the importance of offensive guards. Instead of digging into his pockets for nickels and dimes to pay guys like Adrian Klemm and Matt O'dwyer, he decided to draft three offensive linemen to play offensive guard even though none of them were offensive guards in college. I keep scratching my head and wondering if this guy is ever going to figure out that blocking is one of the two most important fundementals of football. Maybe they truly expected guys like Junius Coston and Will Whitticker to pan out, but even so, those two have less than two years of experience.
    The switch to the zone blocking scheme has also failed to this point. To many defensive players are running free, and are going simply unblocked. It would be easy to blame everything on Spitz, Moll, and Colledge, but the fact is that the Packers two best linemen are now struggling in the running game, and are now even getting beat in pass pro. If they can't get it together in the next two weeks, the Bears will be dinning on Favre and Green Bay running backs for 60 minutes. The Bengals's defense is decent, and the Packers made them look like All Pros at every postion.

    2. Brett Favre, he made some mistakes, especially the fumble. I could go on and on in defending the fumble and the interception, but he is 36 years old and has been a starting QB for 15 years, he needs no excuses made on his behalf. This team can't come back mentally or physically at this point from Favre's mistakes. The fumble and INT might have only turned into 10 points, but it simply lost the football game, and the spirit of this team.

    3. Receivers, here is a brillant idea, and a concept that has been developing since the early 1920s, it is called the foward pass, but it only works if guys catch the stinking ball, at one point I think I counted at least 8 drops, or passes that hit receivers in the hands. See this is what I mean about the snowball effect of Favre's turnovers, this team isn't mentally stable enough to deal with sudden change, and the drops were in my belief a direct result of Favre's fumble and Int.

    4. Defensive Backs, other than Harris this unit was down right pathetic and miserable. Woodson played completely half assed, and Manuel looked like absolute garabage, and that is to be expected since he hasn't practiced all training camp. I sure hope Woodson is just dicking around, because if he is serious out there, then this team got hosed, about 10 million dollars worth of hose.

    I flat out picked the obvious about last nights game, I guess i could mention the absolute terrible punting by John Ryan, but I think I will just let it go. Sorry about the computer problem, it distracted me from the game, and I haven't had time to go back and watch that garbage.

    One other thing. This team defense on third down is gawd awful, and I will blame it on missed tackles, and poor coaching. Thats it, please feel free to add on. Have a good one!

  • #2
    IMO you are being too generous with Pickett
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #3
      The db's and wr's were awful on Monday night.
      Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        IMO you are being too generous with Pickett
        I agree

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        • #5
          When Woodson wiffed on that weak arm tackle then just sat there an watched everyone else miss as the reciver went in for a TD, my head almost exploded.

          I sure wish he was at the OTAs and what not, looks like he could have used the extra time.
          I hope its a matter of everyone getting on the same page, and getting the whole D package in there.

          One more thing, I shudder to think what team we are gonna see FRIDAY at 3PM. Only + to that is they have 8 days befor the opener.

          EDIT - nice post Nutz

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          • #6
            well Rudi Johnson gained 35 yards on 12 carries, and he is an in between the tackles runner. I think Pickett performed his job, along with the rest of the defensive line. Now the pass rush is a different story altogether.

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            • #7
              I agree, the rush D wasn't the problem.

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              • #8
                Re: Winners and Losers of GB VS CINN

                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                Sorry for the delay, but when you spill a Screw Driver all over your labtop bad things tend to happen to the old motherboard. Don't worry, I got a warranty.

                Ok, before I read the rest of your post. Who in the hell is going to warranty against spilled screw drivers? Sorry to say, I think you're going to be the one screwed here.

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                • #9
                  Re: Winners and Losers of GB VS CINN

                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                  Sorry for the delay, but when you spill a Screw Driver all over your labtop bad things tend to happen to the old motherboard. Don't worry, I got a warranty.

                  Ok, before I read the rest of your post. Who in the hell is going to warranty against spilled screw drivers? Sorry to say, I think you're going to be the one screwed here.
                  Doesn't that extra Best Buy Warranty cover most everything?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Winners and Losers of GB VS CINN

                    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                    Sorry for the delay, but when you spill a Screw Driver all over your labtop bad things tend to happen to the old motherboard. Don't worry, I got a warranty.

                    Ok, before I read the rest of your post. Who in the hell is going to warranty against spilled screw drivers? Sorry to say, I think you're going to be the one screwed here.
                    Doesn't that extra Best Buy Warranty cover most everything?
                    No, fuck no. Never buy that shit man. Seriously, they make 87% profit average on those. I used to work there. My guess is you are SOL because its induced damage not hardware failure. Claim that you did not spill anything on it and it must be standard humidity. Play ignorant and raise a stink or you will not get what you deserve/want out of it. I am being 100% serious here, they have already taken your money they couldn't care less about you now unless you make a big enough stink that it could cause others to leave the store. From my experiences in PCHO (personal computer home office) thats the only way customers with legitmate problems got things done, let alone things not necessary covered by warranty.

                    By the way, make sure you do a spyware scan otherwise they will blame it on that and rape you on and charge you anyway. It might be to your advantage to do a fresh install of windows, but then again they don't include restore cd's with computers anymore (charge 20 bones for 'em) so I don't know how you'd do that.

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                    • #11
                      Oh. I dunno. I figured you were talking about a manufacturers warranty. Maybe Best Buy will bail you out.

                      You need to borrow one of the kids sippee cups around your laptop.

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                      • #12
                        These players played well: Cullen Jenkins, Al Harris, maybe Mike Montgomery. Hawkins covered well a few times, got beat others.

                        AJ Hawk was invisible. Marquel Marquand is still looking for his jockstrap, somewhere on the field in Cinci. Chad Clifton and Mark Taucscher can't see anything right now because their heads are in their asses. Robert Ferguson and Rod Gardner are twins - neither gets much separation, and balls clang off their hands more than they ought. The punter is inconsistent. Nobody knows what the kicker will do.

                        That's the short list of what went wrong. All in all, we knew the offense would be a work in progress, but we didn't know the defense would be so lame.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #13
                          I thought Hawk played all riight, it seemed that the Bengals ran a lot of stuff to the strong side and Hawk was in pursuit.

                          I also know on one play Hawk attacked the lead blocker and blew him up behind the line of scrimmage and Barnett missed the play. That has to be frustrating.

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                          • #14
                            Deputy,

                            how can we improve our pass rush without sacrificing our pass defense if we don't get to the passer?

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                            • #15
                              DEPUTY ANALYSIS

                              I am glad to read it. Truly as gbpackfan said, an embarrassing performance against a wanna be super bowl team with a decade of
                              losing seasons or more. Even worse, was the media hype of a
                              quarterback's return building it up into a major great victory.

                              A predictable scenario built into a great media frenzy Bengals victory
                              backing up preseason predictions about the Pack for 2 days in the mainstream media after this awful performance...including ESPN
                              debating for 2 days about BF will be benched by October...simply awful pr for the greatness of the Packer tradition.

                              Further, your similar theme about my point about "you pay for what you get" and "draft the quality player at the right position" says a lot about this wanna be managment culture mode at the office. Simply, absolutely awful,
                              with the saving grace that at least some of the draft choices look good for the long term development.

                              If I can get an individual ol performance, meaning Moll and Spitz,
                              for the game, let me know about their progress or f grade.

                              Finally, deja vu, the old issues for 2 seasons now, ol and dl pass rush, with the impact pass rush de not truly addressed over the offseason. Folks, you should scratch your head, simply unbelievable.



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