ARE WE GIVING AROD A FREE PASS ??????????????????

[Teamcheez1]

Hands down?? Are you kidding?? Brady is better than Rodgers, period. More to being a great qb than throwing a nice ball. Brady is as clutch as it gets.. Four game winning drives in the SuperBowl..

The defense basically gift wrapped a packers win against Seattle and he couldn't even sustain a drive less enough come from behind by ten points. No one in their right mind would put rodgers over Brady. Not just all time but right now.

Right now, AR won the MVP. I'm sure he would prefer the SB, but he is a better QB than Brady now.

[woodbuck27]

Call me a homer but I'll take a healthy Rodgers over the current Brady. Brady really struggles with pressure in his face (the end zone pick was horrific) and can't escape like Rodgers can. What was the stat they said last night, Brady was something like 1/23 on passes >20+ yards in his SB career? You can't only compare the NFCCG vs the SB. Brady had the benefit of health, a neutral site, and a Seattle defense missing their nickelback for almost the entire game and Avril for the majority of the second half.

A healthy Aaron Rodgers.

Isn't this the same Aaron Rodgers that injured himself falling off the end of the bench?

If it walks like a Homer and it talks like a Homer:

It's likely a Homer.

I have a system for Packerrat HOMERS. 'YOU' don't grade out at four stars.

Only one Packerrat deserves that distinction?

[denverYooper]

I think Leonard's a section 8.

[Pugger]

A healthy Aaron Rodgers.

Isn't this the same Aaron Rodgers that injured himself falling off the end of the bench?

If it walks like a Homer and it talks like a Homer:

It's likely a Homer.

I have a system for Packerrat HOMERS. 'YOU' don't grade out at four stars.

Only one Packerrat deserves that distinction?

What are you talking about here?

Nobody is saying Brady isn't great but be serious. Rodgers' physical skill set today is much better than Brady's is presently.

[woodbuck27]

What are you talking about here?

Nobody is saying Brady isn't great but be serious. Rodgers' physical skill set today is much better than Brady's is presently.

Should I have inserted the word 'otherwise' between the second and third sentence for more clarity?

I'll try this:

The last two weeks it was:

It's "well ...Aaron Rodgers would have been terrific if he was healthy in Seattle".


Today it's .... "Aaron Rodgers physical skill set is 'much better' than Tom Brady's."

Tom 'is still terrific' Brady just won his FOURTH SUPER BOWL RING.

I'm not going way out on a limb here and I'm sorry if it's shocking:

Aaron Rodgers with Mike McCarthy as his head Coach will not win four Super Bowl Rings.

[mraynrand]

Hands down?? Are you kidding?? Brady is better than Rodgers, period. More to being a great qb than throwing a nice ball. Brady is as clutch as it gets.. Four game winning drives in the SuperBowl..

The defense basically gift wrapped a packers win against Seattle and he couldn't even sustain a drive less enough come from behind by ten points. No one in their right mind would put rodgers over Brady. Not just all time but right now.

On a neutral field, healthy, with Avril and the nickel corner out? I'd take those odds.

[denverYooper]

On a neutral field, healthy, with Avril and the nickel corner out? I'd take those odds.

It's almost like these things don't matter.

I'd bet Belichick would trade Brady for Rodgers straight up.

[Striker]

What are you talking about here?

Nobody is saying Brady isn't great but be serious. Rodgers' physical skill set today is much better than Brady's is presently.

Ever since I first came here I've wondered what woodbuck rambles about.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

No. Rodgers is the second best qb in the league. Rodgers had better stats than Brady but being great is not just about stats. Brady is number one, this is not even a debate. Its really not. No one leads a team/offense better, no one wants to win more than him, and no one is more clutch. Those attributes are clearly superior to Rodgers. What he did in the fourth quarter is legendary. What do you think the score of that game would have been had the Pats been given 5 turnovers?

Saying Brady is better is not an insult to Rodgers. I think he's the second best QB in the league. With the game on the line, in the biggest stage, with everything on the line, I would be lying if I said I want Rodgers over Brady. Brady won four superbowls with game winning drives, would have 6 if not for a few plays, has been to 9 AFC championship games (almost every year), and lets not forget he's 37. Brady >> Rodgers.

[Striker]

On a neutral field, healthy, with Avril and the nickel corner out? I'd take those odds.

Would Rodgers have a healthy leg as well?

I remember on one incompletion there was a straight shot at the first down if Brady scrambled, but he chose to chuck the ball in the dirt instead (the play where Gronk and Sherman collided).

[Pugger]

Should I have inserted the word 'otherwise' between the second and third sentence for more clarity?

I'll try this:

The last two weeks it was:

It's "well ...Aaron Rodgers would have been terrific if he was healthy in Seattle".


Today it's .... "Aaron Rodgers physical skill set is 'much better' than Tom Brady's."

Tom 'is still terrific' Brady just won his FOURTH SUPER BOWL RING.

I'm not going way out on a limb here and I'm sorry if it's shocking:

Aaron Rodgers with Mike McCarthy as his head Coach will not win four Super Bowl Rings.

This is what I was questioning: "Isn't this the same Aaron Rodgers that injured himself falling off the end of the bench?" What are you talking about here???

And bully for Brady. He won another ring. But GOING FORWARD I'll still take Aaron over Tom. Tom is gonna be 38 and Aaron is only 31 and still in his prime.

[Smidgeon]

No. Rodgers is the second best qb in the league. Rodgers had better stats than Brady but being great is not just about stats. Brady is number one, this is not even a debate. Its really not. No one leads a team/offense better, no one wants to win more than him, and no one is more clutch. Those attributes are clearly superior to Rodgers. What he did in the fourth quarter is legendary. What do you think the score of that game would have been had the Pats been given 5 turnovers?

Saying Brady is better is not an insult to Rodgers. I think he's the second best QB in the league. With the game on the line, in the biggest stage, with everything on the line, I would be lying if I said I want Rodgers over Brady. Brady won four superbowls with game winning drives, would have 6 if not for a few plays, has been to 9 AFC championship games (almost every year), and lets not forget he's 37. Brady >> Rodgers.

These are all arbitrary designations assigned by third parties without statistical proof without defining what "clutch" means independent of a supporting defense (Brady would have lost yesterday if it wasn't for his defense's INT in the final minutes).

So no. Those attributes aren't "clearly superior". They might be. It's possible. But logically there is no way to definitively say that. Intangibles are intangible for a reason.

[Pugger]

No. Rodgers is the second best qb in the league. Rodgers had better stats than Brady but being great is not just about stats. Brady is number one, this is not even a debate. Its really not. No one leads a team/offense better, no one wants to win more than him, and no one is more clutch. Those attributes are clearly superior to Rodgers. What he did in the fourth quarter is legendary. What do you think the score of that game would have been had the Pats been given 5 turnovers?

Saying Brady is better is not an insult to Rodgers. I think he's the second best QB in the league. With the game on the line, in the biggest stage, with everything on the line, I would be lying if I said I want Rodgers over Brady. Brady won four superbowls with game winning drives, would have 6 if not for a few plays, has been to 9 AFC championship games (almost every year), and lets not forget he's 37. Brady >> Rodgers.

You'd want a 37 year old QB over a QB with Rodgers' skill set in his prime in 2015? Nobody is saying Brady isn't great but physically right now going forward Rodgers is a better QB than Brady.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

These are all arbitrary designations assigned by third parties without statistical proof without defining what "clutch" means independent of a supporting defense (Brady would have lost yesterday if it wasn't for his defense's INT in the final minutes).

So no. Those attributes aren't "clearly superior". They might be. It's possible. But logically there is no way to definitively say that. Intangibles are intangible for a reason.

Four game winning drives in the superbowl? Rodgers had two/three fourth quarter drives against Seattle were all he needed was a few first downs and the game is over.

[Teamcheez1]

Four game winning drives in the superbowl? Rodgers had two/three fourth quarter drives against Seattle were all he needed was a few first downs and the game is over.

And AR was throwing on every play? If I'm not mistaken, there was at least one drive in the 4th qtr where three consecutive plays were runs for no yardage.