Bates as HC

[b bulldog]

I wish he would have been given a shot, I know it is real early but he was my first pick.

[chewy-bacca]

I would like to think he would have been most of our 1st choice.

[gbpackfan]

There is something wrong with Bates. He is in his late 60's and he has NEVER been a head coach. That short stint with Miami doesn't count! We're not seeing something that every GM in the league sees. Sorry, but it is a fact.

[chewy-bacca]

IMHO he should get a shot over MM. who the EEF is MM!?

[b bulldog]

MM's resume surely can't wow anyone and Bates's resume can, enough said!

[ND72]

well evidently it did.

[digitaldean]

Yes, I would have wanted Bates as my first choice, too.

But since McCarthy's the coach, it's kind of a moot point, ain't it?

I will criticize McCarthy up and down, and will call for his head if called for. But I will also make sure that even I wanted to THROW A BRICK THROUGH MY TV during last nights game, I have to remember that they have time to correct SOME of the bad stuff. It's still only preseason, but it's obvious they have GAPING holes to fix.

I never expected playoffs this season, but I expect them during his tenure. If not, then he AND TT can go.

[ND72]

i'm going to say this again....NFL preseason, coaches do not game plan to win the game, they game plan to get certain plays on film, and certain players on film or certain situations. for instance, I read that last night GB decided to go 90% zone coverage on defense just to "get a look" at it. even though they won't play much zone coverage. it's just what teams do in the preseason.

[MJZiggy]

Fact is, that with 10 openings for HC this season, Bates didn't get any of them. There must be a reason why. I know he was fiery last year, but the defense wasn't perfect either. I don't know how much of that was Bates call or Sherman's but the man isn't God. McCarthy is the one who got hired and as such deserves the opportunity to play at least a regular season game before you guys start looking over your shoulders at "what could have been." What could have been is quite possibly he could have sucked worse than anything that might happen with M3 this year. M3 is the coach. Bates is not. He has a 3-year contract to prove himself and even if you end up wanting to hang him by his privates, there isn't much you could do about it.

[b bulldog]

Actually I heard from Brett's best friend that MM really wanted this game and did throw more at this preseason game than normal.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I all I know is if Bates was our defensive coordinator this year, that we would have a strong top 10 D. I wouldn’t of mined giving him a shot as HC, because I like what he did in Miami the year before, but I value him more as great motivational defensive coach.

[gbpackfan]

Actually I heard from Brett's best friend that MM really wanted this game and did throw more at this preseason game than normal.

I believe they spent 1 1/2 days on the Bengals, two at most. A lot of the time was spent on Chicago. MM wants every game and should. Game planning was not a high priority here.

I can't put this one on the coaches, it was the players. Blaming the coaches is a convienant (spelling?) excuse and a lame one at that!

[Terry]

Since you asked...

convenient.

[Brainerd]

M3 is the coach. Bates is not. He has a 3-year contract to prove himself and even if you end up wanting to hang him by his privates, there isn't much you could do about it.

Tell that to Ray Rhodes.

[Brainerd]

I believe they spent 1 1/2 days on the Bengals, two at most. A lot of the time was spent on Chicago. MM wants every game and should. Game planning was not a high priority here.

I can't put this one on the coaches, it was the players. Blaming the coaches is a convienant (spelling?) excuse and a lame one at that!

Is was without a doubt coaching and not the players. MM did nothing but use excuses about effort in his interview after the game. Yeah, no kidding. I guess no one told him that effort is the responsiblity of the coaching staff. As I've stated before players play for coaches they respect like they did for Bates last year. They was no lack of effort last year. He stated in the same interview that he didn't think the o-line was that bad but needed to see the video. What is he doing on the sidelines? Was he even watching the game? Why does he even bother showing up for the game if he needs to see the video before making any determination? Too many excuses and its only preseason.

Coaching is alot more than making TC shedules and running drills. MM has shown nothing, absoultely nothing that indicates he can be a HC in the NFL. Right now all indicators point to the opposite.