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  • #31
    Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    " If you think about the way the game had gone, up to that point Wilson had completed very little and most of Seattle's yards were coming on the ground. " mraynrand

    From the time that Clay Matthews was out of the game or with 7:01 remaining in the 4th Qtr. and up to his final pass for the game winning TD in Overtime:

    Russell Wilson was 5 for 7 passing for 100 Yards. He was effective as a passer in the last half of the 4th Qtr,. and into OT. As a passing threat he had to be considered dangerous given this statistic.

    Given Russell Wilson's style of play he was 'in fact' a solid threat to pass on that game ending 1st down.
    The 5-7/100 yards is deceptive - two plays were for 70, including the previous play and the pick play to Lynch. The other three were all short, and Wilson had missed a deep throw. Also, even just playing catch-up, the play selection was 3-3 on the first drive and 3-1 (the one pass incomplete) on the second drive. The Packers were giving up a lot of yards on the ground on those two drives. The next time Wilson gets the ball is in OT, and there you suspect a more conventional attack., and it makes sense to stop the run. So the play selection tendencies were highly slanted to run, the deep throws were off target, the Packers were doing a good job in 0 coverage; it made sense to continue defending the run on a first and 10. They got burned but it wasn't a bad strategy, based on the way the game was going.
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    • #32
      He is dangerous, that is why you might blitz him.

      The Packers had had success with pressure for most of the game.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        " The 5-7/100 yards is deceptive - two plays were for 70, including the previous play and the pick play to Lynch." mraynrand

        NO !

        The plays were in order for:

        20;26;8;10 and 36 yards for a total of 100 yards.

        When Russell Wilson burns the Packers defense for the Final passing TD (again ) he was 5/7 for 100 yards from the time that Clay Matthews exited the game or at 7:01 remaining in the 4th Qtr.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
          " The 5-7/100 yards is deceptive - two plays were for 70, including the previous play and the pick play to Lynch." mraynrand

          NO !

          The plays were in order for:

          20;26;8;10 and 36 yards for a total of 100 yards.

          When Russell Wilson burns the Packers defense for the Final passing TD (again ) he was 5/7 for 100 yards from the time that Clay Matthews exited the game or at 7:01 remaining in the 4th Qtr.
          Thanks for the correction.

          So instead of Rand's 2/2 for 70 and 3/5 for 30.....
          We have woody's 2/2 for 62 and 3/5 for 38.....
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          • #35
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            He is dangerous, that is why you might blitz him.

            The Packers had had success with pressure for most of the game.
            agree, but not on first and ten in overtime, right? With the success the birds were having running the ball, the Packers played the odds.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
              agree, but not on first and ten in overtime, right? With the success the birds were having running the ball, the Packers played the odds.
              Odds schmodds. I'd blitz every down all game long.
              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                Odds schmodds. I'd blitz every down all game long.
                You can expect a call from Mike Sherman

                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  You can expect a call from Mike Sherman
                  Or Bruce Arians.
                  One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                    agree, but not on first and ten in overtime, right? With the success the birds were having running the ball, the Packers played the odds.
                    Probably dependent on personnel and likely play call. Whatever Bevell dialed up, Capers had anticipated because Wilson had to change the play.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                      The players?? Some blame - Burnett's idiotic slide... dumb on top of stupid. No excuse for that.

                      But the collapse is, of course, on dunderdummy. His rush no one, and cover no one on 3rd and 21 was the beginning of the end. Until that point, he was Dr. Jekyl... of course, Mr. Hyde is always lurking just under the surface.

                      When will you guys learn?? lol... the guy can't wait to go stupid, he can't wait to go soft, he can't wait to rush 3 and cover no one... it's who he is, and it's who he has always been.

                      Dunderdummy cannot be trusted - NEVER, EVER!!!
                      And I'm telling you that based on history, I conclude that MM has him going into that shell on 3rd and 21. That is MM theory. Capers historically has not coached that way.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Cover 0 blitz on the winning TD there sport.

                        It wasn't all Cover 2. Matthews out put Hawk onto field and that left the rush to the D lineman.

                        I agree that M3 has some influence on how D is played. But there weren't completely in a shell.
                        Problem is that the players mindset/downhill play had changed by that point. You can't get into that shell, then come out when you want to. Human emotion just doesn't work that way. In allowing that situation to become real, MM forced his players into a reactionary/softer mindset. It has an avalanche effect on players who are watching a lead evaporate and hoping the clock runs out. Once they lose that edge, you pretty much gotta wait til kickoff next game to get it back.
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                        • #42
                          There should be no reason you can't play zone on 3rd and freaking forever and win the play. Every other defense does it and forces a throw underneath and tackles.

                          I would have preferred more pressure though.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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