Official Randall Cobb FA Thread

[mraynrand]

If he goes somewhere else I think it is a major blow to our team.

This is the key. Is it true or not? I'm worried that it might be true, but think it's not. Plus intangibles. Is Cobb a great guy or what? I suspect he's worth a lot, in areas like locker room/team stability. Letting him go is a gamble for sure.

[red]

so....

someone in the raiders organization, close enough to know the teams plans, lets it "leak" that IF cobb becomes a free agent, they will start a bidding war

so how is this not tampering? sounds like the very definition to me

[King Friday]

so how is this not tampering? sounds like the very definition to me

Because no one really wants to go play for the Raiders...the league realizes this is the only way they can field a competitive team.

[vince]

so....

someone in the raiders organization, close enough to know the teams plans, lets it "leak" that IF cobb becomes a free agent, they will start a bidding war

so how is this not tampering? sounds like the very definition to me

What are the tampering rules anyway?

I think this is Cobb's agent trying to push up his client's value by leaking a rumor to the media that Oakland would love to pursue Cobb if/when he reaches free agency. It could have been an easily misinterpreted elevator conversation at the combine or it may not even have happened.

That happened to the Packers a few years back when Steven Jackson's agent leaked info that the Packers had strong interest in him - in an attempt to push Atlanta into upping its offer. Atlanta didn't bite. A few weeks later, after failing in his attempt to push the deal higher, he signed the deal with them. So it was pretty clear that the Packers interest level was "no thanks."

Can the agent be fined or penalized for tampering in these situations?

Even if there have been conversations between Reggie McKenzie and Cobb's agent, I think there's a fairly established precedent that the NFL does't even pursue those situations this close to the deadline. No sense in squashing good juice for their media partners..

[mraynrand]

What are the tampering rules anyway?

probably the same as the rules for football inflation, sexual assault, etc. Goodall will make like a monkey's uncle, make it up as he goes along and change his mind if some activists harass him and threaten the $$$ of the league.

[vince]

Just my opinion, but don't sleep on the Raiders. They're not there yet, but they're getting better. Decent young defense with some vets mixed in and some pieces on offense. Two or three more pieces and they could start to make some noise. I'm pretty sure they have a boatload of cap space to fill. If I'm a free agent, I'd look hard at the opportunity to get paid a boatload and go out to the west coast and look to make things exciting.

Add Suh (28 yrs. old) and Cobb (25 yrs. old) out there, hit on your early draft pick (Kevin White maybe), and they could have some things happening real quick.

[Patler]

Adams had a solid rookie season, better than I expected honestly. But he was super inconsistent.

Was Adams really that inconsistent, or just the third option so that in some games he was a non-factor? With the seasons that Nelson and Cobb had, I don't think you can attach much significance to Adams having games with little to show in the stat columns. Sure, he made some mistakes, and a couple times he and Rodgers weren't on the same page, but to be totally honest, that also happened a couple times with Nelson and Cobb, too. Rodgers mentioned several times through the season that Adams was doing very well, and that his opportunity would come, which it did several times.

[sharpe1027]

I agree with Patler. Opportunity is everything for a WR. Adams did plenty with what he had.

[pbmax]

Adams did disappear midseason, then reappeared at the end of the season. Was it inconsistency or opportunity? Rodgers seems to pass to people he trusts and my guess is that Adams was not having good practices.

But its hard to evaluate given the way games can go.

[Patler]

I think it is a mis-perception that he disappeared for any stretch in the season. His game breakdown shows:

Game 2 - 5 receptions
Game 6 - 6 receptions
Game 8 - 7 receptions
Game 12 - 6 receptions

He had at least one reception in every game 2 through 15. From game 6 through game 12 he had 24 receptions In the 11 games 2 through 12 he had 34 receptions. His quietest period statistically was the last four games of the season.

When you have two wide receivers who catch nearly 200 completions, and an emerging starting running back with another 40, there isn't a lot left for the TEs and 3rd receiver, let alone the 4th receiver like Boykin. Adams had four big games relatively evenly dispersed throughout the season. From a 3rd receiver, that is pretty consistent, especially in view ot the years Nelson and Cobb had.

How many times was AR even looking for Adams? However, having the confidence to go to him on the fake spike said a lot about what AR thinks of Adams in my book.

[pbmax]

My memory didn't serve me well. He disappeared at the end of the season, with one exception for week 13 and the Dallas playoff game.

Date		Week	Tm	Opp	Result	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Sk	Tkl	Ast
2014-09-04	1	GNB @SEA	L 16-36	0							
2014-09-14	2	GNB	vNYJ	W 31-24	7	5	50	10.00	0	0.0	0	0
2014-09-21	3	GNB	@DET	L 7-19	3	2	11	5.50	0	0.0	0	0
2014-09-28	4	GNB	@CHI	W 38-17	3	2	18	9.00	0	0.0	0	0
2014-10-02	5	GNB	vMIN	W 42-10	4	1	11	11.00	1	0.0	0	0
2014-10-12	6	GNB	@MIA	W 27-24	8	6	77	12.83	0	0.0	0	0
2014-10-19	7	GNB	vCAR	W 38-17	1	1	21	21.00	1	0.0	0	0
2014-10-26	8	GNB	@NOR	L 23-44	9	7	75	10.71	0	0.0	1	0
2014-11-09	10	GNB	vCHI	W 55-14	2	1	10	10.00	0	0.0	0	0
2014-11-16	11	GNB	vPHI	W 53-20	2	2	13	6.50	1	0.0	0	0
2014-11-23	12	GNB	@MIN	W 24-21	4	1	10	10.00	0	0.0	0	0
2014-11-30	13	GNB	vNWE	W 26-21	11	6	121	20.17	0	0.0	0	0
2014-12-08	14	GNB	vATL	W 43-37	4	1	6	6.00	0	0.0	0	0
2014-12-14	15	GNB	@BUF	L 13-21	4	1	6	6.00	0	0.0	0	0
2014-12-21	16	GNB	@TAM	W 20-3	4	2	17	8.50	0	0.0	0	0
2014-12-28	17	GNB	vDET	W 30-20	0							
2015-01-11	19	GNB	vDAL	W 26-21	11	7	117	16.71	1	0.0	0	0
2015-01-18	20	GNB	@SEA	L 22-28	3	1	7	7.00	0	0.0	0	0

[Patler]

In the last four games during which Adams "disappeared" at the end of the season, Nelson had 28 receptions for 400 yards and Cobb had 26 for 365 yards. When the top two receivers have 54 receptions in four games for 765 yards, what's left for the 3rd receiver? (Lacy had 11 for 75, too.)

[pbmax]

In the last four games during which Adams "disappeared" at the end of the season, Nelson had 28 receptions for 400 yards and Cobb had 26 for 365 yards. When the top two receivers have 54 receptions in four games for 765 yards, what's left for the 3rd receiver? (Lacy had 11 for 75, too.)

His targets indicate he was not used as an option deliberately. Whether that was by choice, matchup or opponent gameplan happenstance, I cannot say.

My best guess is that it was the game planner, because when he felt he needed him (NE and Dal) he was involved plenty. But that could still mean that unless McCarthy called his number, Rodgers hadn't fully learned to trust him. Rodgers did say that Adams was doing good things in practice by the end of the season.

[Tony Oday]

Well looks like Cobb is gone. Per La Confora Packers are going to let Cobb test the FA market and the market will get out of hand. They don't want to pay a slot guy $9 mil per year. The cupboard is getting bare at WR. We need a TE and two good WRs.

[red]

told you guys