Official Randall Cobb FA Thread

[Guiness]

The franchise number is simply the average value of the 5 top contracts at a point in time.

It has virtually no bearing on what the positions will actually be paid in free agency. That depends on which positions have the most talent available compared to the need on the teams with the most available cap space.

QBs always get paid the most...but there aren't any with any value available. That means MORE money will go to other positions, such as WR.

Yes, but Cobb is generally regarded as the top FA WR on the market - and those are the guys who generally get near the franchise number in new longer term deals.

[mraynrand]

yup

i'm all about locking your talent up with a year left on the original deal

for some reason, TT usually doesn't like to deal that way

he doesn't? It seems to me that he's done this with most of the guys he's kept.

[denverYooper]

$12m for a slot WR is too much and I suspect some team will offer him that and we won't be able to match it.

I'd be sort of surprised if he pulled 12m per from another team. He's a very good receiver but he's got a HOF QB throwing him the ball. That's got to make teams think twice... especially after the Vikings paid Jennings and he fell off a cliff without a stud QB.

[mraynrand]

Do you honestly think he gets better at this point? He has played for 4 years and played a lot for 3 of those years. Isn't his next step going to by wily vet?

Isn't this the offseason Cobb takes HGH, grows three inches and learns how to defeat press coverage?

[yetisnowman]

I honestly value Bulaga more than Cobb anyways. TT has proven to have a difficult time finding quality olinemen. Its been ten years since we had this good of an oline. Without Cobb we still have Nelson, Adams, Abbredris, and Janis. I would much rather keep the starting oline together so I'm more worried about losing Bulaga.

I can respect the let Cobb go argument until you start saying things like we still have Janis and Abberdris.

[Pugger]

I honestly value Bulaga more than Cobb anyways. TT has proven to have a difficult time finding quality olinemen. Its been ten years since we had this good of an oline. Without Cobb we still have Nelson, Adams, Abbredris, and Janis. I would much rather keep the starting oline together so I'm more worried about losing Bulaga.

I have to agree. It will be disappointing to lose Cobb but IMO protecting The Franchise is a bigger deal. We won't win squat without #12 but we can replace Cobb a little easier.

[pbmax]

The cap number is not determinative in FA for contract prices, but it definitely is determinative for setting the level of guarantees you can expect to negotiate for if a franchise tag is in the offing.

[Fritz]

I do not recall saying Thompson was unreasonable. I did not say reports are not to be believed. Do you actually read my posts?

I said Thompson may be stingy or unwilling to pay what a fair market price (for Green Bay) is for Cobb, which I noted as $9M a year. My opinion is that Cobb is being reasonable in his demands of Green Bay. I think Cobb would rather stay in Green Bay if the gap in pay wasn't significant to go elsewhere. I can't prove that...nor can anyone here prove the opposite at this time. We'll find out who is right after the fact.

I also did not mention that any recent report was erroneous. If anything, I said that the $12M number probably would be what Cobb was asking of a limp dick franchise like Oakland or Jacksonville. I doubt he would leave Green Bay to go somewhere like that for an extra million a year. For all any of us know, the $12M was a leak from the Raiders hoping to get Cobb to free agency.

You are right, EVERYONE is posturing. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on the posturing.

Cobb is simply posturing.

[Zool]

Without Cobb we still have Nelson, Adams, Abbredris, and Janis.

This is not an argument for letting him go IMO. This is an argument for signing the man.

[Tony Oday]

Arent we 33 Million below the cap? Even with resigning guys we have a TON of cash for a top ILB, Slot WR, TE and NT.

[red]

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florio thinks the packers should let him walk

he thinks he'll go to the raiders. you'd think after signing james jones last year that they would figure out by now that a-rod makes his wr's better, not the other way around

[LEWCWA]

you think NE fans wanted to see welker get away? I'm sure they were lamenting edleman and what's his face, but in the end welker is probably done and NE has a SB trophy. Love Cobb, but WR, especially slots are a dime a dozen......abbawhatever can play in the slot and the other 2 will just get better.....

[Bossman641]

If a team wants to pay Cobb $12M then he's gone and I wouldn't want him at that amount. I'm still holding out hope they can get something around $9M. The thought of going into the season with Adams/Janis/Abbrederis as the #2-4 WR has me terrified.

[Smidgeon]

you think NE fans wanted to see welker get away? I'm sure they were lamenting edleman and what's his face, but in the end welker is probably done and NE has a SB trophy. Love Cobb, but WR, especially slots are a dime a dozen......abbawhatever can play in the slot and the other 2 will just get better.....

Welker was also lots older than Cobb. So while there's a parallel (regarding HOF QBs throwing to slot WRs), it falls flat soon after.

[Joemailman]

Perhaps there's someone who will keep Randall from leaving Green Bay.