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    What will Ted Thompson do about the ILB position in the Off Season?

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/inside-will-likely-get-different-look-for-packers-b99435245z1-290854131.html


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    Comment woodbuck27:

    Most here at Packerrats would agree that Ted Thompson has to say good bye to AJ Hawk and Brad Jones.

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    After that he has to look at Free Agency and the Draft to upgrade the team at the linebacker position and return Clay Matthews to the outside where he belongs.

    Also at linebacker. What will Ted Thompson do with the valuable addition to the Packer defense last off season, Julius Peppers?
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    TT will release Jones and Hawk, saving 7 million. Although I don't expect TT to be very active this year in FA other than signing his own guys, ILB is one position where he might try to make a deal. If he releases Hawk and Jones, Barrington is the only experienced guy he really has. Carl Bradford and Nate Palmer will get a look, but they haven't played the position in a regular season game. As for the draft, Eric Kendricks is likely the only ILB that TT would consider on the 1st round. Perryman and McKinney don't have the coverage skills to go that early.

    As for Peppers, I see TT working on a new contract to lower the cap hit from 12 million to 7-8 million. That, along with the release of Jones and Hawk would give TT about 34 million of cap space to work with.
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    • #3
      why would TT or peppers redo his contract after just the first year of a 3 year deal?

      peppers signed the deal with a very cap friendly first year, and took a big paycut to do it, knowing if he played well, he would make his normal wages in 2015 and 2016

      he pocketed 8.5 million for last season, he can make 9.5 million next season, and 8 million in 2016

      looks to me like a deal set up to play out until he runs out of gas and we cut him

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      • #4
        Originally posted by red View Post
        why would TT or peppers redo his contract after just the first year of a 3 year deal?

        peppers signed the deal with a very cap friendly first year, and took a big paycut to do it, knowing if he played well, he would make his normal wages in 2015 and 2016

        he pocketed 8.5 million for last season, he can make 9.5 million next season, and 8 million in 2016

        looks to me like a deal set up to play out until he runs out of gas and we cut him
        There was talk from the time he signed that contract that it would have to be re-negotiated if the packers kept him past 2014. McGinn had this to say recently about Peppers:

        The assumption is that the two sides will restructure the final two years of his contract and he'll return in 2015.
        I think the Packers would like to lower his cap number in 2015 because of the big name FA's they need to sign (Cobb/Bulaga/Williams). The guys they will need to sign in 2016 don't carry as high a price tag.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by red View Post
          why would TT or peppers redo his contract after just the first year of a 3 year deal?

          peppers signed the deal with a very cap friendly first year, and took a big paycut to do it, knowing if he played well, he would make his normal wages in 2015 and 2016

          he pocketed 8.5 million for last season, he can make 9.5 million next season, and 8 million in 2016

          looks to me like a deal set up to play out until he runs out of gas and we cut him
          I agree. I've never quite understood those who insist Peppers won't be back this year under the existing terms. He probably played better than the Packers expected. He got $8.5M cash last year in salary and signing bonus. This year he gets $9.5 M in new cash. He's playing for the cash he gets. The cap hits are simply accounting gyrations.

          Why would he play for significantly less new money this year than he got last year? Why would the Packers expect him to? He filled a missing component for them on defense.

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          • #6
            About the only way I could see them doing anything to gain significant cap space is to add phantom years to the end of the contract. In effect, push cap dollars to a year they know he will be retired, or gone. That's really not the Packers' way of doing things.

            The cap impact is not a primary concern for the players. Peppers received $8.5 M to play last year. Does McGinn think he will or should play for significantly less than that this year? The Packers could have structured his relatively short contract with little bonus and substantially equal salaries each year. From Peppers perspective, that is what it is. His incomes for the three years are $8.5M, $9.5M and $8.M. Apparently the Packers wanted some cap relief in 2014, so a big part of his income last year was in the form of a signing bonus.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              TT will release Jones and Hawk, saving 7 million. Although I don't expect TT to be very active this year in FA other than signing his own guys, ILB is one position where he might try to make a deal. If he releases Hawk and Jones, Barrington is the only experienced guy he really has. Carl Bradford and Nate Palmer will get a look, but they haven't played the position in a regular season game. As for the draft, Eric Kendricks is likely the only ILB that TT would consider on the 1st round. Perryman and McKinney don't have the coverage skills to go that early.

              As for Peppers, I see TT working on a new contract to lower the cap hit from 12 million to 7-8 million. That, along with the release of Jones and Hawk would give TT about 34 million of cap space to work with.
              " I don't expect TT to be very active this year in FA other than signing his own guys..." Joemailman

              That's likely true.
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              • #8
                i wouldn't mind a high draft pick spent on a guy, AND he big name free agent signing

                unfortunately, there doesn't look like either is an option

                maybe a trade? why not send our first for a stud , pro bowl ILB?

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                • #9
                  hey pb, and chance you could copy and paste the PFF rankings for 3-4 ILBs in the GC so we can look at the guys who might be out there?

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                  • #10
                    This might be the year to trade up in the first or trade up in the 2nd.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                      This might be the year to trade up in the first or trade up in the 2nd.
                      Or trade out of the 1st into the early 2nd and pick up an extra later pick. TT did that in 2008 to take Jordy Nelson.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by red View Post
                        hey pb, and chance you could copy and paste the PFF rankings for 3-4 ILBs in the GC so we can look at the guys who might be out there?
                        Don't have PFF, that might be Bretsky or Yoop. I can look at Packer Report and see if Scout.com does it.

                        We talking draft or FA?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Don't have PFF, that might be Bretsky or Yoop. I can look at Packer Report and see if Scout.com does it.

                          We talking draft or FA?
                          FA, or all ILBs in the nfl, so we can see where the free agents rank

                          i thought you had PFF

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                          • #14
                            The way it looks to me is trade out of 1st. No real TT like fa out there (read under valued) I am concerned about TT ilb draft history.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                              The way it looks to me is trade out of 1st. No real TT like fa out there (read under valued) I am concerned about TT ilb draft history.
                              I'm starting to look at that possible move by TT too.

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