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  • #31
    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
    Would you care to point out the recent threads where anybody on this forum has been praising Capers? I haven't seen it.
    I read this and felt compelled to comment. I may not have praised Capers in this forum, but I certainly have in others. The main reason the Packers D did as good as it did/didn't do worse than it did (take your pick) is the scheming and trickery of Capers. Personnel-wise, we are deficient. Think back to the blandness of Packer D before Capers. What we have now is distinctly better.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Would you care to point out the recent threads where anybody on this forum has been praising Capers? I haven't seen it.
      Com'on Joe... you love the guy, admit it!!!
      wist

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      • #33
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        Com'on Joe... you love the guy, admit it!!!
        I'm pretty meh about him. I think it's possible to win with him (they have before). But I sure wouldn't mind a change. With the exception of ILB, I think the talent is pretty good. The defense has had a frustrating inability to close out games after playing well for most of the game.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #34
          Well the Cover 0 rush didn't get the QB when Russell threw the game winning TD, so it seems as though you can get burned with either approach if the players don't do what they are supposed to do.

          Or the offense doesn't get a first down until its behind.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Well the Cover 0 rush didn't get the QB when Russell threw the game winning TD, so it seems as though you can get burned with either approach if the players don't do what they are supposed to do.

            Or the offense doesn't get a first down until its behind.
            The last 3 times Seattle possessed the ball they scored touchdowns. It's hard to come to Capers' defense (no pun intended) when that happens.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              The last 3 times Seattle possessed the ball they scored touchdowns. It's hard to come to Capers' defense (no pun intended) when that happens.
              The defensive alignment Vs Seattle with 1st and 10 at our 35 that went for the game winning pass and catch for the Seahawks win was simply stupid 'D'.

              For CB Tramon Williams to give the inside route to Seattle WR Jermaine Kearse and with no over the top backup ie from Sean Richardson was simply hard to believe.

              It was a gift wrapped route for Wilson > Kearse.

              Dom Capers should have been FIRED just for that.
              Last edited by woodbuck27; 02-16-2015, 09:29 PM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                The last 3 times Seattle possessed the ball they scored touchdowns. It's hard to come to Capers' defense (no pun intended) when that happens.
                never trust Capers. NEVER
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  never trust Capers. NEVER
                  You remind me of someone...
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    You remind me of someone...
                    Very Wisterious!
                    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      The last 3 times Seattle possessed the ball they scored touchdowns. It's hard to come to Capers' defense (no pun intended) when that happens.
                      But what was it about his gameplan that was foolish or ill-considered? It worked for 55 minutes. It was never likely they would hold the Seattle O scoreless.

                      Does anyone actually believe Capers has a D that is called play better NOW! Or one called rush 3 and cover no one?

                      Players have to execute the call. They did for 55 minutes and then stopped. Wilson hits a few long balls he missed in the first half and the pass rush slows down.

                      The two areas that need to be addressed by the coach are one, why cannot they play a deep zone pass defense and keep everyone in front of them, and second, though I didn't think it came into play versus Seattle, why call off the dogs late in a half?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                        The defensive alignment Vs Seattle with 1st and 10 at our 35 that went for the game winning pass and catch for the Seahawks win was simply stupid 'D'.

                        For CB Tramon Williams to give the inside route to Seattle WR Jermaine Kearse and with no over the top backup ie from Sean Richardson was simply hard to believe.

                        It was a gift wrapped route for Wilson > Kearse.

                        Dom Capers should have been FIRED just for that.
                        That Cover 0 blitz had been hugely effective in the second half of the season. It helped win the Cowboys game. Players need to execute.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          That Cover 0 blitz had been hugely effective in the second half of the season. It helped win the Cowboys game. Players need to execute.
                          Giving the down and the importance of the situation (the Super Bowl was at stake). I feel that more prudence in terms of protecting the middle against the pass was needed.

                          Yes ...... in all plays execution is important.

                          Yes ...... CB Tramon Williams screwed up allowing Seattle WR Jermaine Kearse the inside route. The sideline was TWill's friend.

                          He had to align himself 4-5 feet to his right. Force the route outside. As it turned out he was simply beaten by an easier throw for Russell Wilson than if Wilson had to toss it down along the sideline.

                          Some help over the top was also needed. The Packers gift wrapped that win for Seattle right there. Dom Capers should have been FIRED! He's too old to get it right.

                          Forever we put up with weakness and ST's.

                          Forever we witnessed MM's flaws in overall game management.

                          Forever we have to witness Dom Capers screw up !!!!!!

                          Mike McCarthy acts too slowly !


                          His boss is slower.
                          Last edited by woodbuck27; 02-17-2015, 08:55 AM.
                          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                          • #43
                            Everyone makes mistakes, and we don't even know what the mistake is in this case. Is Tramon playing the wrong technique? Is Richardson or one of the other short coverage guys supposed to be deep? Was it definitely a Cover 0 blitz? We don't know the call.

                            But if you fire someone because of the timing of an error, you are just looking for a scapegoat. Either Capers can still coach or he can't. One play shouldn't change that assessment.

                            His units have outperformed the offense at the end of the season two years in a row. I think McCarthy can coach. I think Capers still can as well.

                            Replacing him without knowing who the new guy will be is just wishful thinking.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              I think McCarthy can coach. I think Capers still can as well.
                              ...and on the other hand, there was little indication that Slocum can coach. All aspects of ST have been agonizingly inconsistent for years, and prone to late season gaffes, not just this year.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                ...and on the other hand, there was little indication that Slocum can coach. All aspects of ST have been agonizingly inconsistent for years, and prone to late season gaffes, not just this year.
                                Agreed. Other that a brief glimpse of ingenuity and an uptick with Cobb in 2011, there was not much positive. His best players, Crosby and Masthay, both had big slumps that the coach seemed powerless to help as well.

                                Kickoff coverage was about the only team to improve and stay that way. And I think it improved all the way to average.
                                Last edited by pbmax; 02-17-2015, 07:55 PM.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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