The NFCN just gets weaker

[Tony Oday]

The Packers are the best overall team in the NFL right now, if they add a decent pair of ILB's and one redzone threat then there is nothing, barring injuries, that stops them this year.

But to what this thread is about is that we can run away with the North!

[Guiness]

The Packers are the best overall team in the NFL right now, if they add a decent pair of ILB's and one redzone threat then there is nothing, barring injuries, that stops them this year.

But to what this thread is about is that we can run away with the North!

APRH - in today's NFL, I think more of it comes down to that than anything else.

[denverYooper]

How do you know they played their worst, versus playing their best and being bested by the Packers? It's the age-old question. Were the Brits better at Agincourt, or did the French guys just have an off day? If you have such a method to determine effective team output over being dominated by the opposition, you should write an App. Every coach and leader of anything would want one.

I do think Green Bay exploited a flaw in Seattle's offensive gameplan: their heavy reliance on playaction bombs to generate chunks of yards. HHCD had a career day shagging Wilson's fly balls out of center field. The Packers sure looked like they knew that was coming and were prepared for it.

[Bossman641]

The Packers are the best overall team in the NFL right now, if they add a decent pair of ILB's and one redzone threat then there is nothing, barring injuries, that stops them this year.

But to what this thread is about is that we can run away with the North!

I also think the Packers will be the best team in the NFL next year, but to balance out my homerism....

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[mraynrand]

I do think Green Bay exploited a flaw in Seattle's offensive gameplan: their heavy reliance on playaction bombs to generate chunks of yards. HHCD had a career day shagging Wilson's fly balls out of center field. The Packers sure looked like they knew that was coming and were prepared for it.

Yeah, the Packers were the better team. Game 1 they were a mess; even Stubby has admitted this. But by the time they made and perfected their mid-season adjustments, and being healthy, they were able to exploit a relatively poor Seattle offense. Seattle had few weapons on offense (Wilson and Lynch) and a marginal offensive line. (i.e. it wasn't just a flaw in Seattle's game plan, it was an exploitable deficiency in their offense). The number of turnovers was unusual, but the reason for them wasn't. On the other side, the Packers very fine offense was limited by Seattle's very good defense - and to some extent Rodger's injury. The Packers had a better game plan and executed it to perfection (except the fake FG) until that last INT. But I think taking into account the entire season, comparing their performance against common opponents like NE and Dallas, it's not unreasonable to say that the Packers were overall a little bit better than Seattle and let one get away.

[mraynrand]

APRH - in today's NFL, I think more of it comes down to that than anything else.

APRH - yep, it matters most. Another interesting factor to consider is the first to second year advance that most players with the Packers show (and in general that's where you get a lot of improvement). Packers had four major rookie contributors that could make that advance - Rodgers, Linsley, Adams, and Ft. Dix. You mix in a decent ILB from the draft and another from ???(internal, Clay, FA) and this team could really take off. APRH.

[mraynrand]

But more to the issue of the thread - I think the Vikings will be an 8-10 win team, and they will severely challenge the Packers at least for one game - maybe win it. They know how to limit the Packer offense. BridgeoverTeddywater will be better too.

[pbmax]

I am not buying the Colts they do something in postseason and stop someone's run game.

[smuggler]

I'm with pbmax. I think people are severely overrating the Colts in this forum. How is that D going to stop the Dallas running game? I don't see it.

[Guiness]

I'm with pbmax. I think people are severely overrating the Colts in this forum. How is that D going to stop the Dallas running game? I don't see it.

Well, this forum and a lot of other places. Seems they've won the off-season paper champion crown - very early, the writers usually wait until after the draft to award it, but I guess they got jumpy.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Minny trades for Mike Wallace for a 5th and gets a 7th with him. He is a huge upgrade at WR for them. Real good move for them.

[Rastak]

Minny trades for Mike Wallace for a 5th and gets a 7th with him. He is a huge upgrade at WR for them. Real good move for them.

Yea, not a bad move. WR corps is actually pretty solid with Patterson I guess just returning kicks and watching unless he gets his shit together.

[smuggler]

So they are mostly using Jennings in the slot in now and they have Charles Johnson and Mike Wallace on the outside? that's not too bad...

[pbmax]

That's a $23 million cap number for 2 receivers who have had trouble producing after their first teams.

BridgeH20 and Johnson are cheap, but that's a lot of money for two guys at the backend of careers. If Johnson is more than a good #2, it might work.

[Rastak]

That's a $23 million cap number for 2 receivers who have had trouble producing after their first teams.

BridgeH20 and Johnson are cheap, but that's a lot of money for two guys at the backend of careers. If Johnson is more than a good #2, it might work.

Wallace is 28, isn't Jordy Nelson 29? Jennings is pricey for sure but he can play in this league for sure.

edit: all depends on Bridgewater and if he plays like he closed out the year.