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  • #31
    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    It's a good sign for the Packers that Twill signed with Cleveland. It means he must be done. I told you they were desperate! Looks like they overpaid, but depends on the GM. Loved Twill, loved him lighting up Kap. Good luck; Twill did not have a step to lose and when he does, it will be over very quickly.
    I already thought he lost a bit on his vertical jump. That was one of his gifts.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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    • #32
      $10 million guaranteed.

      Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 21m21 minutes ago
      Here are details on Tramon Williams' new deal with Cleveland, includes $10M fully guaranteed http://pck.rs/1MK5EOg via @PGpackersnews

      Ian Rapoport @RapSheet ยท 1h 1 hour ago
      Big RT @TomPelissero: Tramon Williams can make $7.5M in 2015 on 3-year, $21M pact with #Browns. Due $6.5M in 2016, including $2.8M gtd.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        $10 million guaranteed.

        Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 21m21 minutes ago
        Here are details on Tramon Williams' new deal with Cleveland, includes $10M fully guaranteed http://pck.rs/1MK5EOg via @PGpackersnews

        Ian Rapoport @RapSheet ยท 1h 1 hour ago
        Big RT @TomPelissero: Tramon Williams can make $7.5M in 2015 on 3-year, $21M pact with #Browns. Due $6.5M in 2016, including $2.8M gtd.
        Jesus, seems like a lot for him. Hard to keep track of the economics of the game, but I think he's a marginal starter now (a guy you're looking to replace due to diminishing skills) and that's a steep contract for that role.
        --
        Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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        • #34
          I can smell the desperation here in cleveland. Wait, maybe that's just ------- errr...nevermind.
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #35
            You guys hear about Welker?
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Patler View Post
              Well, they kept Goodson over Jumal Rolle for a reason. Rolle played well in preseason for GB, but was released and signed to the PS. Ultimately, Rolle was picked up by the Texans, and had 3 interceptions in 10 games for them. Maybe we will find out what they saw in Goodson to keep him over Rolle.
              Many in here scratched heads over that one
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #37
                Ms referenced Js not wanting Togo over 5.2 a year. Bummed but don't blame either side. Sad though as he wanted to stay here and he was our best cb last year imo so Hate to lose good people who want to stay.
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #38
                  my feeling was that shields was the best cornerback but Williams was much more consistent

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                  • #39
                    If Tramon only has one good year left in him, the Browns are essentially paying him $10M for that year. I can't blame the Packers or the 30 other teams for passing on a deal like this.

                    In a passing league, people should have been fighting to sign Williams, but most felt he wasn't worth this type of money either.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                      Many in here scratched heads over that one
                      Yup, but the decision makers must have had reasons fans were not aware of.

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                      • #41
                        I think this was the play he tried to run over Kap. I will miss Tramontana.


                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          Hopefully we aren't missing him next January.
                          C.H.U.D.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            Ms referenced Js not wanting Togo over 5.2 a year. Bummed but don't blame either side. Sad though as he wanted to stay here and he was our best cb last year imo so Hate to lose good people who want to stay.
                            Cobb and Bulaga both probably took less money because they wanted to stay here. If Tramon was offered 5 million per year to stay here and left, I would argue he didn't want to stay here all that badly. He took the highest amount of money even though it meant going to perhaps the worst organization in football. That's fine. That's his right. But I don't think there's anything sad about the fact that he's gone because he made that choice. Staying here was a real option for him.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #44
                              I think Twill knows the end is near, and he needed to get the most GM possible. Smart guy; the money will last longer than the ring he would have received at the end of next season (I hope).
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                                I think Twill knows the end is near, and he needed to get the most GM possible. Smart guy; the money will last longer than the ring he would have received at the end of next season (I hope).
                                Ya, it seems clear that money was the primary factor for Williams. Can't blame him for that, many others would approach it the same. However, I wouldn't say he needed to do that, just that he wanted to. After having earned $37 M already, some may have found it good enough to sign a decent contract to finish his career where it emerged, with a team that should be a SB competitor.
                                Last edited by Patler; 03-25-2015, 12:34 AM.

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