Compensatory Picks Issued Today

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the part where the get the player back before they even receive the comp pick for losing him

i understand the rules, but in this instance i think common sense took a piss break

i mean the contract that they based the comp pick on was already null and void by the time they issued the pick

[pbmax]

the part where the get the player back before they even receive the comp pick for losing him

i understand the rules, but in this instance i think common sense took a piss break

i mean the contract that they based the comp pick on was already null and void by the time they issued the pick

I could see your point if the guy was cut in training camp or didn't make the team and they brought him back. He doesn't even take a snap under the new deal for the new team. But that didn't happen here.

I could even see perhaps modifying the comp pick because the contract did not realize its full value. However, since the biggest of these deals tend to front load significant money, I bet the formula already takes that into consideration.

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I could see your point if the guy was cut in training camp or didn't make the team and they brought him back. He doesn't even take a snap under the new deal for the new team. But that didn't happen here.

I could even see perhaps modifying the comp pick because the contract did not realize its full value. However, since the biggest of these deals tend to front load significant money, I bet the formula already takes that into consideration.

i doubt it does. thats why a 1 year 10 million dollar deal will net you the same as a 5 year 50 million dollar deal

the whole process seems very simplistic and based solely on average per year

[smuggler]

Your last sentence is correct.

[Patler]

so, whats stopping a team and player from getting together and deciding it might be in the players best interest to take a massive one year deal elsewhere. the team will get a high comp pick for him, and the team will resign the player the following year and let him chase a ring?

Normally, the player signs a multi-year contract with the new team, so he isn't available again for many years. There is no way for a team and player to plan what you suggest. Why will other teams want to invest big money in a player for just one season?

Michael Johnson signed a five year $44 million contract with the Bucs. It is unusual for a team to sign a big money free agent, and release him just a year later. The Bucs did it with two players this year. They also cut Anthony Collins, who they had signed just last year to a five year $30 million contract

[smuggler]

Again, this is an anomaly related to how stupid the Bucs are. Why should we penalize the Bengals for how stupid another organization is?

[Patler]

yes, IMO, they should have lost the pick if they had re signed walden before the next draft

its compensation for a team to help rebuild after losing a guy, if the guy returns to the team before the team uses the comp pick, then they haven't lost anything have they?

They did actually sign Peppers instead of Walden. Why should the lose the pick if the re-signed Walden, but not when the signed Peppers, an even better player?. Either way they have already replaced the player they lost before the comp pick is awarded. Some teams some years sign the replacement the same year. In that situation they are never short a good experienced player, they just replace one with another.