I hope Dallas does draft Gordon...which would mean Todd Gurley went earlier to San Diego or Oakland. Everything else being equal (i.e., Gurley's ACL injury is not a factor) Gurley is a better NFL RB than Gordon. If I'm wrong, then all of these guys are wrong too: Scout: Todd Gurley best RB in draft since Adrian Peterson
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One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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they probably both will beOriginally posted by Pugger View PostWill either guy be there at #30? That is the question.
i've said for months that this draft looked to be very weak at ILB, i think a lot of these guys are being way over projected right now
we see this every year.
anthony is the guy this year. about a month or two ago it came out that the packers were high on him, and people started saying green bay might even take him in the second. then it started turning to, if the packers are willing to take him in the 2nd, well team X might since they need an ILB. then it gets all the way up to the point where green bay might take him in the 1st, now all of a sudden out of the blue people are worried that he won't be there when we pick
a lot of these guys we're talking about as possible first round picks are still projected by a lot of people to be mid to later round picks
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That's how it works, red. The combine performances made a definite difference. For instance, Anthony proved athletic and fast. Dawson was a bust. Perryman's height shrunk.
It's all a crap shoot as scouts do more research and players have their pro days and dui arrests. Nothing makes that more clear than the mock draft computer games. Where people get drafted depends on who is compiling the big board. And there's a big board for every team and scout out there.
The only one that matters is the one TT is drawing up...and none of us knows what it looks like.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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I like Eric Kendricks, and it fills an immediate need. The scouting reports say he can cover a TE, so then you'd have your thumper in Barrington and your sideline to sideline/cover ILB with Kendricks. I think he's a better athlete than A.J. Hawk, comparing both coming into the NFL.
According to Peter King's mock draft, he has TT taking Denzel Perryman, even making the comment that the Packers love him. I'm sure they love a lot of players, but when have you ever known the team to really tip their hand? I guess HHCD was easy to spot from a mile away as a pick last year.
If you read this article on ILB's, Kendricks is the top of the list, and Anthony is down the list. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...ks-paul-dawson
It would interesting to see who they have given first round grades on their big board."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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i can show you 20 different list that have all the ILBs going in all different kinds of orders
hell, i think it was the USA today draft magazine that only had 1 first round ILB (Mckinney) one guy as a second rounder (can't remember who) and all the rest as mid to late rounders
others think Mckinney is a sure fire bust because is football IQ is shit
its funny you should think that kendricks is more athletic then hawk was coming out
kendricks combine numbers (he did not complete the whole workout cause he pulled a hamstring, not sure if it was packer hamstring or not)
6'0, 232 pounds (played in college in the 220's)
40 yard dash- 4.61
20 yard dash -2.64
10 yard- 1.57
reps of 225 - 19
vertical- 38
broad jump- 10'4
didn't do 20 yrd shuttle or 3 cone
Hawk
6'1, 248
40 Yrd Dash: 4.65 (at his pro day he ran a 4.47, but ohio states pro day times are always very fast)
20 Yrd Dash: 2.72
10 Yrd Dash: 1.57
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 24
Vertical Jump: 40
Broad Jump: 09'07"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.96
3-Cone Drill: 6.82
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its funny, i've got all the lindy's draft mags for the last 6 or so years. its amazing how much of a crap shoot the draft is when you go back and read some of the things that experts thought of many of the playersOriginally posted by Maxie the Taxi View PostThat's how it works, red. The combine performances made a definite difference. For instance, Anthony proved athletic and fast. Dawson was a bust. Perryman's height shrunk.
It's all a crap shoot as scouts do more research and players have their pro days and dui arrests. Nothing makes that more clear than the mock draft computer games. Where people get drafted depends on who is compiling the big board. And there's a big board for every team and scout out there.
The only one that matters is the one TT is drawing up...and none of us knows what it looks like.
for instance, in 2009, on their big board
#1- michael crabtree - bust
#2 aaron Curry- out of the league by 2013
on the other hand
#46- clay mathews Jr
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Of the guys I've looked at on that list, so far I like...
Marcus Peters, CB, Washington
PJ Williams, CB, FSU
Bernardrick McKinney, LB, MSU
Depending on how the draft falls, maybe trade down for any one of those guys - or again, depending on how it falls, stay put for one of those guys.
I didn't like what I've seen of Kendricks to want him in the first round.
Just starting to look thru players now though.wist
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I hope they get the best available player, whether that's Kendricks in the 1st in their estimation or not. I'm sure they will address ILB and CB early, but whatever order they do it, I'm sure they know what they are doing. I think this discussion, and the list shows that there is no obvious choice, as much as there was last year."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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Two more guys I've checked out and like quite a bit...
Shaq Thompson, LB/RB, Washington
Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami-OH
Thomspon could be a steal if he's there at 30. He plays much faster than the 4.6 he's listed at... I wouldn't hesitate to play him inside. He's undersized and consideration would have to be given to keeping him fairly clean; but on passing downs I could see the guy being a seek and destroy rover playing underneath zones, man, and blitzing occassionally.
Rollins would be a nice fit in the 2nd round... not sure he'll be there at our 2nd pick.wist
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I don't know how anyone could have watched Clay play his senior year of college and not realize he was a beast. I believe it was OSU that they were playing on Saturday Night football, and I was blown away by his speed. It was obvious from day one seeing him that he'd be a great player. Acceleration was off the charts.
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Originally posted by wist43 View PostTwo more guys I've checked out and like quite a bit...
Shaq Thompson, LB/RB, Washington
Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami-OH
Thomspon could be a steal if he's there at 30. He plays much faster than the 4.6 he's listed at... I wouldn't hesitate to play him inside. He's undersized and consideration would have to be given to keeping him fairly clean; but on passing downs I could see the guy being a seek and destroy rover playing underneath zones, man, and blitzing occassionally.
Rollins would be a nice fit in the 2nd round... not sure he'll be there at our 2nd pick.
On board with Shaq Thompson as well if he falls a bit; that dude can do a lot of things and is a bit freakish as an athlete
Max Williams would not surprise at all eitherTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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