Is this guy the Packers next starter at CB?

[Patler]

Yes, I get that. But I was looking at short term and felt Goodson's performance in the preseason (sucked) that he'd be safe on the Practice Squad.

Shields is good for being out a game or two, Hayward - you had to worry about his hamstring injury coming back, House was wishy/washy and got hurt a lot too and Hyde was switching to safety. I'd rather have Rolle come in for a game or two over Goodson.

Williams, Shields, Hayward, House, Hyde - there were five guys ahead of Rolle/Goodson for playing time at corner. I don't think they were worried that much about immediate contribution form the 6th CB on the roster. Rolle had spent a good portion of 2013 on the practice squad, so maybe they thought he was safer there than was Goodson because of his better athleticism or something.

I would like to have Rolle in the mix this year, but I suspect there are others of equal promise out there. Just need to find another one.

[Carolina_Packer]

Carl Bradford, although drafted higher than Goodson, can be viewed as the same type of project since they likely thought of him as an OLB, and may now be looking at him at ILB. A lot of people commented in another thread about how he looked lost too. Welcome to the NFL, rook!

[mraynrand]

Who cares how he did it, the point is he did it.

I do. And so should you. If Rolle was some sort of super stud, I'd be concerned about him getting away, and what that says about the Packer organization (but what about every other organization too? I mean it is Catawba college for crissakes). However, if more likely, he was just fortunately placed in an advantageous spot to grab a few INTs, it means just that. I suppose now we're all expecting a matchup between pro bowlers Jumal Rolle and Charles Johnson, right? Seriously, gotta be reasonable about these guys hanging on at the bottom of the roster. At least wait a few years before passing judgement. My prediction is that all these guys will look pretty marginal in the long run.

[pittstang5]

I do. And so should you. If Rolle was some sort of super stud, I'd be concerned about him getting away, and what that says about the Packer organization (but what about every other organization too? I mean it is Catawba college for crissakes). However, if more likely, he was just fortunately placed in an advantageous spot to grab a few INTs, it means just that. I suppose now we're all expecting a matchup between pro bowlers Jumal Rolle and Charles Johnson, right? Seriously, gotta be reasonable about these guys hanging on at the bottom of the roster. At least wait a few years before passing judgement. My prediction is that all these guys will look pretty marginal in the long run.

Hey now, slow down there. No one is saying Rolle is the next "super stud," nor am I saying the Packers left a probowler go. My point was simply, 3 ints is 3 ints. You can't discount that no matter how he got them. For a a guy that was "hanging on the bottom of the roster," that's pretty damn good.

I'm not looking to get into a pissing match here, but Rolle outperformed Goodson in the preseason - plain and simple. Rolle continues his ascension in this league by getting picked up and then having a hell of an end of the year. During the same time, Goodson can't find the field. I, and others too, questioned why Goodson was kept over Rolle. Rolle getting on the Texans 53 then having the end of the year he did, only left us Packers fans questioning whether TT may have let a good player go - especially now since the CB position in Packerland is what it is with House and T-Will gone. That's all I'm pointing out. I can only go off of what I see, and I saw Rolle as the better option at the time. I'm not saying he'll be the next Revis or Richard Sherman, but I thought he was the better option over Goodson.

In my original post, I stated - they (the coaches), must have seen something in Goodson to protect him from being grabbed up. Unfortunately, I have no clue what that is. As a Packer fan, I hope they made the right move and until I see something positive from Goodson, I'm going to think Rolle was the better option.

Had House or Williams been re-signed, I don't think were having this conversation. But the fact that the CB situation in Packerland is what it is, I'm thinking the Pack would be in better shape if Rolle were still with the team.

[mraynrand]

^^^ Good post. I just wonder if Packer brass saw Goodson as having a higher ceiling. Still, both guys probably are depth at best. They will have to address that position in the draft or RFA, if for no other reason but to create competition.

[Joemailman]

I think the Goodson/Rolle decision probably just came down to perceived upside. Rolle might have been better as a rookie, but I don't think TT makes roster decisions based on what a player can give him as a rookie. He's looking down the road a bit. The thing to remember about Goodson is that he only played 19 games in college at CB. He's still learning the position. Rolle wasn't signed off the Packers practice squad until October 1. Perhaps by then Goodson was already starting to show improvement in practice.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I wish we had both Rolle and Goodson. Not sure why Ted didn't activate Rolle when Houston came calling. They had an open roster spot. Isn't Rolle younger than Goodson? I think Rolle has upside too. I'm not one to question personnel decisions much, but I question that one.

[Bretsky]

I liked Roell better than Goodson

And now Patler.....is bringing on the possibility that Goodson will come the next Victim of THE CURSE


Goodson's career is probably ruined

[Guiness]

I wish we had both Rolle and Goodson. Not sure why Ted didn't activate Rolle when Houston came calling. They had an open roster spot. Isn't Rolle younger than Goodson? I think Rolle has upside too. I'm not one to question personnel decisions much, but I question that one.

I think when Houston came calling, it was too late - it was obviously a better opportunity for him than the Packers, he was pretty much guaranteed to see the field, even start, whereas with the Packers he was not even likely to be game day active.

As far as his interceptions, I'll only be concerned if he repeats that feat. Who was the Packer DB drafted as part of the reaction to Moss who caught 5 or so, and was off the team a couple years later?

[smuggler]

You are thinking of Antuan Edwards, but he was a safety. Vinson would probably have been a good player if not for knees made of crafting plaster. Mike McKenzie was worth his 2nd round pick, attitude aside. Edwards was a clean first-round bust aside from a solid/decent rookie year.

[Patler]

... Not sure why Ted didn't activate Rolle when Houston came calling. They had an open roster spot...

I think when Houston came calling, it was too late - it was obviously a better opportunity for him than the Packers, he was pretty much guaranteed to see the field, even start, whereas with the Packers he was not even likely to be game day active.

A recent article confirmed what Guiness wrote. Apparently, GB made an offer to Rolle when Houston made its offer, but Rolle rejected it because he felt his opportunity to play in Houston was much better.

The article also gave some insight into TT's thinking on roster management. Several times he has left an open roster spot for several weeks, and had one before Rolle left. If he had offered a contract to Rolle when there was no other team interested, Rolle probably would have signed, so why didn't he? TT said with an open roster spot they felt they had their entire practice squad protected. If anyone was offered a contract, they could counter the offer without having to release anyone. If the team has few injuries, he can leave a spot open until he needs it if injuries thin a position, or to try to keep a practice squad player who gets an offer.

[Patler]

I liked Roell better than Goodson

And now Patler.....is bringing on the possibility that Goodson will come the next Victim of THE CURSE


Goodson's career is probably ruined

Could be, although I think it applies most strongly to O-linemen.

[Fritz]

A recent article confirmed what Guiness wrote. Apparently, GB made an offer to Rolle when Houston made its offer, but Rolle rejected it because he felt his opportunity to play in Houston was much better.

The article also gave some insight into TT's thinking on roster management. Several times he has left an open roster spot for several weeks, and had one before Rolle left. If he had offered a contract to Rolle when there was no other team interested, Rolle probably would have signed, so why didn't he? TT said with an open roster spot they felt they had their entire practice squad protected. If anyone was offered a contract, they could counter the offer without having to release anyone. If the team has few injuries, he can leave a spot open until he needs it if injuries thin a position, or to try to keep a practice squad player who gets an offer.

Which could mean - though not necessarily - that there was someone on the PS they liked more than Rolle. Or it could mean they were trying to stay flexible, depending on injuries to determine who gets offered a contract. Which means they're all fodder.

[Pugger]

^^^ Good post. I just wonder if Packer brass saw Goodson as having a higher ceiling. Still, both guys probably are depth at best. They will have to address that position in the draft or RFA, if for no other reason but to create competition.

This has to be why he was kept over Rolle.

[Carolina_Packer]

http://totalpackers.com/2015/03/24/now-the-packers-are-sorry-about-jumal-rolle/

I had never seen this site. This guy is gonzo, which I suppose you have to be to stand out in a crowded world of fan sites.

The easiest thing to do is second guess and take pot shots at people who actually get to make the decisions, but then how would fan sites exist without the level of nitpicking this guy is displaying. Sure, be disappointed in a decision, but don't act like there is no plan. You just may not like the plan. TT clearly is not perfect, but all GM's have hits and misses. It looks like he may have missed on this one, but as one of the commenters said, if he found a Jumal Rolle before, he can find one again.