Damarious Randall, 2015 First Round Pick

[denverYooper]

Packer Leg strikes again.

[call_me_ishmael]

Was unsure about this pick, but boy does it look like this kid can play. He looks like he will be a future star or at least very capable starter. LOL @ Wist. This kid is a solid tackler IMO.

[smuggler]

Willingness goes a long way with CBs

[denverYooper]

Willingness goes a long way with CBs

And prom dates.

[HarveyWallbangers]

That's exactly what I saw of him - what little I could find.

"Ankle biting" tackler is a great description... I don't care what he might measure out as - he plays a midget brand of football. He plays very small, and doesn't have the bulk or strength to get even average WR's on the ground - he's going to get his ass handed to him by NFL WR's.

Read a couple of reports that had him as 5th rounder - that seems about right; but of course we just wasted a #1 on him.

Maybe he turns into a decent nickelback - but you don't spend 1st round draft picks on nickelbacks.

Remember the consternation! Do we have the threads going back to the Nick Collins pick or was that on JSO?

[wist43]

Remember the consternation! Do we have the threads going back to the Nick Collins pick or was that on JSO?

Harvey, he's exactly what I said he was, and he's exactly what he was in college. A guy with good ball skills, and tackles like a girl. I don't like him as a football player - he's far too soft. He's a terrible tackler. I thought Darby was a much better player - and he proved to be a better player with the Bills.

You guys like your soft players that can cover; and you value interceptions over stopping the run and forcing punts. Luckily for you, TT prefers to play soft-ball too - and we habitually have an average to poor defense as a result. I don't get it, but TT will never change, and you guys will never like physical football players. It is what it is.

[Patler]

Sorry, Wist. You were wrong about Randall then, and repeating it now doesn't make it anymore true than it was then. "Soft" is a guy like Tramon Williams, especially in his last few season in GB, who will run alongside a ball carrier and not even try to do more than handfight with him. Randall, on the other hand, never hesitates to stick his nose in and make a tackle.

[Fritz]

Harvey, he's exactly what I said he was, and he's exactly what he was in college. A guy with good ball skills, and tackles like a girl. I don't like him as a football player - he's far too soft. He's a terrible tackler. I thought Darby was a much better player - and he proved to be a better player with the Bills.

You guys like your soft players that can cover; and you value interceptions over stopping the run and forcing punts. Luckily for you, TT prefers to play soft-ball too - and we habitually have an average to poor defense as a result. I don't get it, but TT will never change, and you guys will never like physical football players. It is what it is.

If last year's draft could be done over today, with one year in the pros to now see, how many people think Randall would last until the Packers' pick in the first, much less the fifth round as Wist suggests?

[mraynrand]

And prom dates.

cad!

[Bretsky]

we could go bump threads that support TT's use of the first and threads that don't.

Justine Harrell and Sherry come to mind.

[3irty1]

Ready your crow hole Wist.

[wist43]

Sorry, Wist. You were wrong about Randall then, and repeating it now doesn't make it anymore true than it was then. "Soft" is a guy like Tramon Williams, especially in his last few season in GB, who will run alongside a ball carrier and not even try to do more than handfight with him. Randall, on the other hand, never hesitates to stick his nose in and make a tackle.

If all you watch is Packers football, he probably seems like the second coming of Rod Woodson... on the other hand, I don't think he can carry Darby's jock. Are you saying Randall was/is as good as Darby??

Randall is a soft player. He is the type of player the Packers prefer... for some reason, given the choice between two players - a tough, hardnosed tackler, and a finesse guy, the Packers will take the finesse guy every time.

The national media have been questioning the Packers toughness for years - and for good reason.

[mraynrand]

I saw Darby play a couple of times for the Bills. He's pretty physical, but I thought he was a bit of a liability in man coverage. He seemed to get turned and get lost sometimes. Seems like a good player. Should improve.

[mraynrand]

The national media have been questioning the Packers toughness for years - and for good reason.

And you buy the national media? If all you watch is Packers football...they may look soft, but a lot of teams play as soft or softer than than the Packers D. The Packers aren't playing in a vacuum. the 49ers, Seahawks, and Broncos all had enormous success the past few years with very good defenses. Compared to those teams , the Packers defense looks soft. It really does. But that's a one-sided view. The Packers are designed to beat people mostly with their offense. They can win with a capable defense, and that's probably what they will have, so long as Stubby is the coach.

[Patler]

If all you watch is Packers football, he probably seems like the second coming of Rod Woodson... on the other hand, I don't think he can carry Darby's jock. Are you saying Randall was/is as good as Darby??

Randall is a soft player. He is the type of player the Packers prefer... for some reason, given the choice between two players - a tough, hardnosed tackler, and a finesse guy, the Packers will take the finesse guy every time.

The national media have been questioning the Packers toughness for years - and for good reason.

How the heck can I possibly compare Darby and Randall? I see Randall play every week. When do I get to see Darby play, and how often? I suppose I could make something up based on a few highlight plays, but after all, those are highlights and may not be representative of his overall work.

Randall showed himself to be a willing tackler last year, more willing than some CBs the Packers have had in the past. Maybe his technique wasn't always the best, but that is what coaching is for. I don't know how anyone could watch the Packers last year and not see Randall as a very willing tackler at CB.

Randall hasn't been there "for years", so any media questioning of the "Packers toughness for years" is not an indictment of Randall. It means nothing.