Official Day 2 (Rounds 2 and 3) of the 2015 NFL Draft Thread

[red]

falcons

49ers

chiefs

bills

texans

maybe bengals

cards

cowboys colts

those are the teams still looking for ILB's

one down

49ers

chiefs

bills

texans

maybe bengals

cards

cowboys

colts

[Joemailman]

Houston is next pick. Is this where Randy Gregory goes?

[Joemailman]

Bye Bye McKinney.

[pittstang5]

There goes one

[red]

ok, there goes the one i didn't want

but they jumped up ahaed of someone that needs an ILB

3 guys left, 7 teams

[Rastak]

6. BENARDRICK McKINNEY | Mississippi State 6041|246 lbs|4JR Tunica, Miss. (Rosa Fort HS) 11/19/1992 (age 22) #50
GRADE 3rd Round


BACKGROUND: A three-star athlete and quarterback out of high school, McKinney played quarterback and linebacker as a prep player and dreamed of attending Mississippi State, jumping on the offer once it arrived during his senior year. He moved full-time to defense and redshirted in 2011. McKinney started the final 10 games at middle linebacker in 2012 and finished second on the team with 102 total tackles, earning All-SEC Freshman honors. He started all 13 games in 2013 as a sophomore and led the team in tackles (71), tackles for loss (7.0) and sacks (3.5). McKinney again started all 13 games in 2014 as a junior and again led the team in tackles (71), adding 8.0 tackles for loss and 3.0 sacks, earning First Team All-SEC and All-American honors. He bypassed his senior season to enter the 2015 NFL Draft.


STRENGTHS: Looks the part with meaty hips and a muscle-bound, long-limbed frame…added 40 pounds since high school, working his tail off in the work room…uses his length and hands to jar, engage and control the point of attack, not avoiding blockers…physical demeanor and prefers playing near the line of scrimmage where he can battle big bodies…flexible joints and natural bend as a rusher…long, decisive strides to eat up grass in a hurry with closing burst to track and attack…instinctive and breaks down the action well…assignment sound and unselfish in his responsibilities…strong wrists to be a reliable tackler when he breaks down properly…nonstop motor with a competitive drive always working overtime…conductor of the defense and embraces the leadership role, getting the defense set…works hard in the film room to learn offensive formations and tendencies…plays on special teams coverages…durable frame, starting the last 36 straight games in college…consistently productive the last three seasons.


WEAKNESSES: Plays tall and doesn’t consistently bend at his knees, struggling to protect his lower body and play with consistent pad level…tight-hipped with rigid redirection skills…not a sudden mover and struggles in the open field…lacks a natural feel for spacing in coverage and needs tight quarters to be effective…late to read and too easily fooled by eye candy, taking unnecessary steps and finding himself late to recover…needs to finish once he makes contact, playing wild and allowing his technique to break down, especially in a crowd…suspect ballskills, doesn’t finish interceptions when he gets his hands on the ball…questionable fit at the next level with some scheme limitations.


SUMMARY: A high school quarterback and star on the basketball team, McKinney quickly made the transition to inside linebacker at Mississippi State and was consistently productive in the SEC the last three seasons. He is an interesting size/speed athlete and moves well for his body type, but not an elite burst/agility player. Although he flashes smart diagnose skills, McKinney is late to recognize plays and lacks the range to make up for false steps, especially if given cover responsibilities – the further away from the line of scrimmage, the more he struggles. He has the physical nature and intangibles needed for the NFL, but his struggles in space and as a cover defender hurt his next level potential – skill-set projects him as an edge rusher (like Jonathan Newsome) or two-down thumper at inside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme (like Akeem Dent).

[Rastak]

ok, there goes the one i didn't want

but they jumped up ahaed of someone that needs an ILB

3 guys left, 7 teams

For the Vikings I like OG or ILB.


edit: Vikings pick is in - no trade.

[pittstang5]

Where's Wist? That was his guy

[wist43]

Where's Wist? That was his guy

I've given up on TT for this draft... when he determines to have a lousy draft - he goes all-in, lol...

Pretty sure we won't be drafting any ILB's...

[red]

Where's Wist? That was his guy

i'm not sure how its spelled, but i think its

Autoerotic Asphyxiation

[ptisme]

Vikings taking Kendricks

[pittstang5]

Saints having a good draft

[red]

FUUUUUCK

time to trade up teddy

[Rastak]

7. HAU’OLI KIKAHA | Washington 6023|253 lbs|5SR Hau’ula, Hawaii (Kahuku HS) 7/8/1992 (age 22) #8
GRADE 3rd Round


BACKGROUND: A three-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Kikaha was recruited by several Pac-12 schools, moving across the Pacific from the islands to Washington. He made an instant impact as a true freshman defensive end over seven starts, recording 8.0 tackles for loss and 3.0 sacks. He started the first four games of 2011 before a torn ACL in his left knee sidelined him for the rest of the season. Kikaha rehabbed and worked his way back onto the field in summer 2012, but tore the same ACL and missed the entire 2012 season. He returned healthy as a junior defensive end in 2013 and led the team with 15.5 tackles for loss and 13.0 sacks, earning Second Team All-Pac 12 honors. Kikaha moved to “BUCK” outside linebacker in 2014 and set several school records as a senior, including 25.0 tackles for loss and 19.0 sacks, and was a unanimous First Team All-American. He earned an invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.


STRENGTHS: Explosive first step and arc speed to get around the edge with flexible body control and balance to flatten…stays low with natural dip, using his hands to slap away blockers’ jabs without slowing his momentum…tough to contain in space and rarely stops his feet, crossing the face of blockers and using his lower body quickness to work around bodies…fluid change of direction skills to make sharp 90-degree turns with the loose hips to turn and play in coverage – will drop and cover in short zones with natural ball awareness and proximity feel…strong wrists and arrives with aggressive angles and violent intentions, tuning up his target…nice job on the edges to hold the corner and close off the outside, tracking well to work off contact and pursue…plays assignment sound football with elite effort and competitiveness – fiery, pesky motor that simply doesn’t quit…experienced in a two and three-point stance at left and right defensive end, playing mostly the “4i” technique as an underclassman before moving to “BUCK” outside linebacker as a senior – also played on special teams coverages as a senior…highly productive and one of NCAA’s top pass rushers the last two seasons, leaving Washington with the school record for sacks (36.0).


WEAKNESSES: Solid build and muscle tone, but lacks ideal girth and body strength and can be pushed off his path at times by blockers – too easily slowed and needs space to be effective, lacking the length to live in a phone booth…doesn’t have the power to consistently shed once engaged and won’t overwhelm with his upper body strength…can be run at and controlled in the run game, too easily moved from his spot…moves well, but not a twitchy athlete…tends to get lazy with his tackling technique at times and needs to be a more consistent finisher – too many ankle biting tackle attempts, needs to better break down on the move…needs to improve his anticipation and instincts in coverage…strong durability concerns after tearing the ACL in his left knee twice (Sept. 2011, Aug. 2012).


SUMMARY: Washington’s all-time leading sack artist, Kikaha, who changed his last name from “Jamora” to “Kikaha” prior to his junior season, is one of the most accomplished and talented pass rushers in the 2015 draft class – past ACL tears do create long-term concerns. He does a great job winning the edge and closing down the pocket with arc speed and outstanding effort in pursuit, making plays most others don’t because of his pure hustle and competitive drive. Kikaha’s lack of functional strength shows against the run and he lacks a power element as a rusher, but he is terrific in space, finding ways to get to the quarterback. He was asked to cut it loose and attack the pocket every play at Washington and will face some growing pains in the NFL with added responsibilities, but he has the tools to be valuable and versatile rusher, best suited in a 3-4 scheme.

[pittstang5]

Bastards