Official Day 2 (Rounds 2 and 3) of the 2015 NFL Draft Thread

[wist43]

Calm down. No need to draft an ILB in the first two rounds if the talent sucks. We had one if the highest picked ILB in recent history with Hawk. Nuff said.

There are LB's rated further down that I really like - I just have no faith in TT that he will draft any of them.

That being the case, we go into next season with the slugs we have available - we're looking at going back to playing a ton of nickel as our base b/c we simply don't have enough talented players to play the 2nd level.

TT and Dom don't care about stopping the run... they've made that painfully clear.

[pbmax]

Well, they're going to have to intercept it, b/c they sure as shitfuck aint gonna be able to tackle anyone... Rollins can tackle, but Randall needs to have a cell phone on him to call for help.



I think we're going to revert back to a lot of nickel as our base... maybe Richardson will be deployed as a rover of sorts. We'll be small as fuck upfront and on the second level, but Dom never thinks the opponent will run the ball anyway.

Last year's encouraging signs of actually trying to play some tough football seem to be out the window, and we're back to flag football.

It's very discouraging.

C'mon, you are reading too much into losing Williams, Hawk and Jones. Tramontana wasn't the most physical corner. And even if the backups start at ILB, as a group, with Hayward in for Williams, its a better D. Certainly no less tough. If Randall was the free safety over HaHa, then I see your point. but he is the dime guy right now.

You also get Raji back and a (hopefully) second year jump from Pennel.

[red]

Ted and the Scouts get the first shot to place the players. There is some evidence the O Line might be different. So they thought Bradford could provide pass rush, but it didn't pan out.

So he switches to ILB with a week or two of camp to go. He is switching positions from college AND from the rest of the offseason. He wasn't going to be able to do it that fast.

With a whole offseason, its more feasible.

I don't KNOW that is happening, but Bob did report that someone in the Packers like him inside. We won't know until camp and preseason.

i liked him as an ILB when we drafted him, i even mentioned in last years draft thread that he was our new ILB

it ted and the scouts are telling our coaches where to play the picks, then thats a massive issue to me

[pbmax]

TT will draft a thumper later....Maybe Jeff Luc or Taiwan Jones.

I'm ready for some LB talent. We didn't need 1st or 2nd rounders to replace the shit we had but we're now in the meat of this draft. Lets get someone mean. The defense always looks like the MLB.

That's still the part I haven't figured out.

If you gave Ted a top of the 2nd round pick for free, does he take a 3 down LB or a thumper?

How much does he want Matthews out of the middle in base versus a 3rd down/dime backer they do not have yet?

[pbmax]

i liked him as an ILB when we drafted him, i even mentioned in last years draft thread that he was our new ILB

it ted and the scouts are telling our coaches where to play the picks, then thats a massive issue to me

I think everyone came away from our initial breakdown of him thinking he was going inside. Ted burst everyone's bubble the next day at his PC.

[3irty1]

Fuck I hope we don't end up depending on Bradford. I'd prefer to not even depend on Barrington. I do love his attitude though.

[wist43]

Randall will fit right in then.

Small up front? Compared to what?!

Compared to a competent NFL calibur front seven.

If you don't have but 1 competent ILB - how can you possibly run a 3-4, or an Elephant?? The answer is you can't. If you can't run a competent base alignment, how long do you think it will take Dom to conclude, "... we should run the 2-4 as our base"??

It will take Dom all of 1.23 seconds to go full on 2-4 base again... the guy hates playing a seven man front. This draft, and the fact that we no longer have many competent second level guys has dunderdummy written all over it.

[pbmax]

Our secondary can probably beat any other teams' on the basketball court. It's a lot of bodies to throw at CB, but with losing both House and Tramon and Bush unsigned, I guess it makes sense.

run pMc makes a great point that hasn't been mentioned. We don't know the status of Bush after surgery. They could be down a third DB.

[Carolina_Packer]

I like this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRBOKK3MV6E He seems to get it. I wish him well. I'd be happy if the Packers got him.

[pittstang5]

I think everyone came away from our initial breakdown of him thinking he was going inside. Ted burst everyone's bubble the next day at his PC.

Yep, as soon as he was drafted, I thought ILB.

[3irty1]

Compared to a competent NFL calibur front seven.

If you don't have but 1 competent ILB - how can you possibly run a 3-4, or an Elephant?? The answer is you can't. If you can't run a competent base alignment, how long do you think it will take Dom to conclude, "... we should run the 2-4 as our base"??

It will take Dom all of 1.23 seconds to go full on 2-4 base again... the guy hates playing a seven man front. This draft, and the fact that we no longer have many competent second level guys has dunderdummy written all over it.

A 3-4 and 2-4 have the same amount of ILB on the field. You have literally thousands of words in this forum bitching about exactly that.

If we go into the season with just one viable ILB you could be getting your 3-3 wish. Just let the blood rush from your ulcer to your penis Wist. Ted is pretty good at this stuff.

[sharpe1027]

There are LB's rated further down that I really like - I just have no faith in TT that he will draft any of them.

That being the case, we go into next season with the slugs we have available - we're looking at going back to playing a ton of nickel as our base b/c we simply don't have enough talented players to play the 2nd level.

TT and Dom don't care about stopping the run... they've made that painfully clear.

We lost three players at the position and drafted 2. I don't see any such indication from that.

[pbmax]

Compared to a competent NFL calibur front seven.

If you don't have but 1 competent ILB - how can you possibly run a 3-4, or an Elephant?? The answer is you can't. If you can't run a competent base alignment, how long do you think it will take Dom to conclude, "... we should run the 2-4 as our base"??

It will take Dom all of 1.23 seconds to go full on 2-4 base again... the guy hates playing a seven man front. This draft, and the fact that we no longer have many competent second level guys has dunderdummy written all over it.

He ran his Elephant and base (though he dumped the 4-3) with Hawk and Jones inside. He ran it with Hawk and Lattimore inside. He ran it with Hawk and Barrington inside. And he ran it with Matthews and Barrington inside.

Those last two are still here. Are Hawk/Jones/Lattimore anything other than replacement level ILBs at this point?

[gbgary]

cb was our weakest leak, and biggest need, going into the draft. TT's addressed it. lb, te, ol, who knows what's next.

[wist43]

C'mon, you are reading too much into losing Williams, Hawk and Jones. Tramontana wasn't the most physical corner. And even if the backups start at ILB, as a group, with Hayward in for Williams, its a better D. Certainly no less tough. If Randall was the free safety over HaHa, then I see your point. but he is the dime guy right now.

You also get Raji back and a (hopefully) second year jump from Pennel.

They wasted the 1st round pick on a foo-foo guy... a foo-foo guy who can't even play on the outside.

Best case scenario is that Randall will be a shutdown nickel back who can competently take away a teams #3 WR out of the slot.

You don't spend 1st round draft picks on nickel backs - especially when the middle of your defense on the second level has exactly 1 player.

Unless TT lands a couple of guys the calibur of Ramik Wilson in the next few rounds... then we have definitely decided that playing run defense is for the birds, and we've taken some serious steps backward on defense.

I have absolutely no faith in TT or the Packers as an organization when it comes to defense - and that is a lack of confidence that goes back to the 1970's... must be something in the water there at 1265.