Official Day 2 (Rounds 2 and 3) of the 2015 NFL Draft Thread

[pittstang5]

Now the bad news:

Doesn't sound like a TT WR pick.

[Bretsky]

RED RED RED

PAUL DAWSON IS OFF THE BOARD

[Rastak]

If you were casting for the part of Adonis in a movie, you couldn't do much better than Danielle Hunter.

I know but can the dude play?

[run pMc]

Well, Boykin left and Abbrederis probably got a concussion just watching the draft.
So I'm seeing this guy listed as 6-2, 6-0, and 5-11.
Looks like he'll be used on KR, bubble-screens and little dump-offs for YAC. They didn't really have anyone to return kicks anyway, with D.Harris gone.

[red]

[3irty1]

I wonder if this guy is yet another project. Seems like a RB skillset trying to play WR. Like Cordarrelle Patterson.

[Rastak]

20. TY MONTGOMERY | Stanford 5117|221 lbs|4SR Dallas, Texas (St. Mark’s HS) 1/22/1993 (age 22) #7
GRADE 4th-5th Round 2012
MEASUREABLES Arm: 31 | Hand: 10 1/8 | Wingspan: 77 2013: (14/12) 61/958/15.7/10
COMBINE 40-YD: 4.55 | 10-YD: 1.59 | 20-YD: 2.64 | VJ: 40 1/2 | BJ: 10’01” | SS: 4.21 | 3C: 6.97 | LS: 11.57 2014: (11/11) 61/604/9.9/3
PRO DAY 40-YD: 4.50 | 10-YD: 1.57 | 20-YD: 2.63


BACKGROUND: A four-star wide receiver recruit out of high school, Ty Montgomery committed to Stanford prior to his junior year, passing up offers from UCLA, California and several others. He served mostly as a sub-package wide receiver during his freshman and sophomore seasons, combining for 50 catches and 563 yards, while serving as the primary kickoff return man. Montgomery stepped into a full-time starter role as a junior in 2013 and had his best season with 61 receptions for 958 yards and 10 receiving scores, recording 2,208 all-purpose yardage (third-best in school history). He was also an All-American return man and finished second in the nation in kick return average (30.3) and kick return scores (2). Montgomery matched his career-best in catches (61) as a senior in 2014, earning Second Team AllPac 12 honors as a kick return and Honorable Mention honors as a wide receiver. He earned an invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.


STRENGTHS: Coordinated athlete with smooth acceleration and long-striding speed…flexible ankles and rubber joints to make fluid cuts and weave through traffic, displaying good quickness at the top of his routes to create room to work…above average vision and improved feel for what’s around him, anticipating lanes well and usually finding the crease quickly…passes the eye test with very good muscle definition – well conditioned and puts in the time in the weight room…outstanding balance and body strength for the position to keep his feet through contact and power through…deceptive strength as a ballcarrier and will lower his pads at the contact point, delivering blows with forward lean and keeping his momentum…not easy to bring down with a physical stiff arm…not overly sudden, but patient before turning on the jets…smooth body control to adjust at the last minute and make acrobatic receptions away from his body without breaking stride…physical blocker…lined up inside and outside at wide receiver in college and offers versatility offense – dangerous on end-arounds and at running back, also experienced taking snaps as the wildcat quarterback…impact potential on special teams with good experience as returner on both punts (13/238/18.3/2) and kickoffs (91/2,493/27.4/3)…coaches speak highly of his “quiet” leadership and strong football character on the practice field and in the weight room – accountable and intelligent off the field as well.


WEAKNESSES: Bulky frame, which causes some rigid movements…sometimes too patient and plays hesitant when the hole isn’t immediately there…not a natural hands catcher and fights the ball often with too many double-catches and focus drops – thinking too much about what’s happening around him or what his next move will be and needs to be more reliable finishing at the catch point…lacks savvy at the position and not a detailed pass-catcher, who routinely sets up and fools defenders with subtleties…a lot of comeback and shorter routes for catch-and-go opportunities on his game film and needs to develop his route tree…holds the ball too loose and needs to improve his ball security…needs to be more aggressive in contested situations and when finishing runs, escaping out of bounds too often…confidence seems to waver after mistakes…durability concerns with several past injuries including a torn MCL in 2012 (missed three games) and a sprained right shoulder in Nov. 2014 that caused him to miss the final two games of his career.


SUMMARY: Arguably the best return man in this draft class, Montgomery averaged 27.4 yards per kick return and 18.3 yards per punt return at Stanford, but he is still developing at the wide receiver position and needs work with his routes and finishing ability. He isn’t as effective as his measureables would suggest and he lacks sudden or slippery burst, but he has impressive athleticism and is able to be elusive with his toughness and acceleration. Although not yet finely-tuned at the receiver position, he is an all-purpose demon with the potential to impact the game in several ways – not the guy you want as the feature weapon of the offense. Montgomery has the NFL ceiling to be a versatile “Z” receiver, but he has a low NFL floor as well – projects as a Josh Cribbs-type of talent right now, as both a receiver and return man.

[Bretsky]

I wonder if this guy is yet another project. Seems like a RB skillset trying to play WR. Like Cordarrelle Patterson.

He is a project. ESPN showed highlights; to me he doesn't look that fast and shifty on returns.

ESPN liked the pick because he's going to a spot where he can develop and can sit back on the bench and learn from some of the best. He's a project.

[pbmax]

Day 2 Teddy Presser

Packer Report @PackerReport · 8m 8 minutes ago
Thompson on Rollins: You watch him play, you watch his ball skills. He's a pretty natural football player.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 7m 7 minutes ago
Strong runner, instinctive quickness. Very strong. Thompson says of Montgomery.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 6m 6 minutes ago
Montgomery's return value was a factor in drafting him but not an overriding factor.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 5m 5 minutes ago
Thompson on State of the ILBs: "I think it's fine" right now. Obviously being coy. Has confidence in the "fellas that we have."

Packer Report @PackerReport · 4m 4 minutes ago
"This thing's a long way from being put to bed," Thompson said of the ILB class and roster in general.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 3m 3 minutes ago
TT on Montgomery. Dynamic player, strong hands, versatile. A lot of return "cred" to him. "He's a pretty good fit for what we try to do."

[pbmax]

Packer Report @PackerReport · 13s 13 seconds ago
West Coast scout Sam Seale on Montgomery: "A Bigger Cobb" Lined up all over field.

[Bretsky]

THOMPSON ON ILB'S

I THINK IT"S FINE

[pbmax]

Well, Boykin left and Abbrederis probably got a concussion just watching the draft.
So I'm seeing this guy listed as 6-2, 6-0, and 5-11.
Looks like he'll be used on KR, bubble-screens and little dump-offs for YAC. They didn't really have anyone to return kicks anyway, with D.Harris gone.

He is 5' 11-7/8"

And I hope Magic just lays still until camp.

[3irty1]

He is a project. ESPN showed highlights; to me he doesn't look that fast and shifty on returns.

ESPN liked the pick because he's going to a spot where he can develop and can sit back on the bench and learn from some of the best. He's a project.

No I mean another position change project. This guy is nothing like your normal Ted WR. Ted loves guys who run routes and catch.

[pbmax]

Now the bad news:

Is 5 drops and 1 fumble per season truly suspect?

[RashanGary]

THOMPSON ON ILB'S

I THINK IT"S FINE

The dick is in!!