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  • #31
    I don't think Perry will ever provide coverage, but he can set the edge aginst the run and bull rush. I think after this year he plays DE for a 4-3 team elsewhere.
    Would love to see Jones make a jump to 'consistent'.
    Which would you rather keep - Perry or Jones?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
      Datone Jones? I think if you want it bad enough he can break out this year. The man quietly had some jaw dropping plays last year. Look at this one 2nd Q of our first Lions game: https://vine.co/v/O7vxIi3FjIJ

      That's Larry Warford our boy has on skates. Collapses him into the center and takes them both out. Incredible play.
      The pass was completed. He didn't disengage soon enough!
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      • #33
        Originally posted by run pMc View Post
        I don't think Perry will ever provide coverage, but he can set the edge aginst the run and bull rush. I think after this year he plays DE for a 4-3 team elsewhere.
        Would love to see Jones make a jump to 'consistent'.
        Which would you rather keep - Perry or Jones?
        I'd take Perry.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #34
          My money is on Jones. Tape those ankles, dude!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            I think Vaughters wins the final LB spot over Joe Thomas, Mulumba, Palmer, Hubbard, and Danzier for his ability to play inside or outside and his performance on special teams.
            I'd like to read what you see in this guy 3irty1 (and others). Vaughters looks like an overachiever to me. The anti-Hubbard. Strong and good football instincts but stiff.

            It'll be interesting to see how his game translates in the NFL. Could be a good special teamer but I don't think his upside is very high.

            He can bust a wedge on kickoff coverage (yeah I know they've been more or less outlawed but they still have two-man leads) but I'm not sure he's quick enough to play inside regularly and I don't see him getting to the QB enough from the outside. Not long enough to be slow and stiff.

            I think Bulaga will eat him for breakfast in camp.

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            • #36
              Offense (24):

              Quarterbacks (3):
              Aaron Rodgers
              Scott Tolzien
              Brett Hundley

              Running backs (3):
              Eddie Lacy
              James Starks
              John Crockett

              Fullbacks (2):
              John Kuhn
              Aaron Ripkowski

              Wide receivers (6):
              Jordy Nelson
              Randall Cobb
              Davante Adams
              Jeff Janis
              Ty Montgomery
              Adrian Coxson

              Tight ends (3):
              Andrew Quarless
              Richard Rodgers
              Kennard Backman

              Tackles (2):
              David Bakhtiari
              Bryan Bulaga

              Guards (3):
              Josh Sitton
              TJ Lang
              Matt Rotheram

              Centers (2):
              Corey Linsley
              JC Tretter

              Defense (26):

              Defensive linemen (7):
              Mike Daniels
              Letroy Guion
              Datone Jones
              BJ Raji
              Josh Boyd
              Mike Pennel
              Khyri Thornton

              Inside linebackers (4):
              Sam Barrington
              Carl Bradford
              Jake Ryan
              Tavarus Dantzler

              Outside linebackers (5):
              Matthews
              Peppers
              Nick Perry
              Mike Neal
              Jayrone Elliott

              Cornerbacks (6):
              Sam Shields
              Casey Hayward
              Micah Hyde
              Demetri Goodson
              Damarious Randall
              Quinten Rollins

              Safeties (4):
              Morgan Burnett
              Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
              Sean Richardson
              Chris Banjo

              Specialists (3):
              Mason Crosby
              Tim Masthay
              Brett Goode

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              Not a depth chart, but an early stab nonetheless. Gone are Abby, Barclay, and Mulumba.

              I have four UDFAs making the roster: RB Crockett, WR Coxson, G Rotheram, and ILB Dantzler. Except for ILB, there seems to be more opportunity for fresh faces on offense than defense, which I found surprising.

              At this point, I have all but one draft picks making the roster, including a second FB and a third TE (actually one of the most difficult guesses choosing Backman over Perillo). I have Ringo not making the roster, but he could also be swapped for Thornton who I'm guessing makes enough of a leap in year two just like Bradford at ILB.

              I am heavy on Dline and light on OLB, but to be fair, there's always a curveball.

              On offense, there are 7 new faces, one each of QB, RB, FB, TE, and G, and two WRs.
              On defense, there are 4 new faces, two each of ILB and CB.

              Like I said, there seemed to be more opportunity on offense, but the two weakest positions--ILB and CB (along with WR)--got the most new faces. And you could argue that the WRs added actually fit two positions: KR and WR at one each. But it all depends on how they're used.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by vince View Post
                I'd like to read what you see in this guy 3irty1 (and others). Vaughters looks like an overachiever to me. The anti-Hubbard. Strong and good football instincts but stiff.

                It'll be interesting to see how his game translates in the NFL. Could be a good special teamer but I don't think his upside is very high.

                He can bust a wedge on kickoff coverage (yeah I know they've been more or less outlawed but they still have two-man leads) but I'm not sure he's quick enough to play inside regularly and I don't see him getting to the QB enough from the outside. Not long enough to be slow and stiff.

                I think Bulaga will eat him for breakfast in camp.
                I don't think he's got much upside but considering he was the #4 linebacker recruit in the country at one point I wouldn't call him an overachiever. Its more about if his game will translate or not. If it doesn't he'll fail fast which is a plus. The versatility is the big thing with him.

                As an OLB he reminds me a little of Erik Walden. Not quite as long or as uber physical as Walden but not as stupid either. Same strengths though in that he can set an edge really well and he's abnormally stout for his size. As a pass rusher he's more like Mike Neal than anyone else we've got. Brute strong and high motor. Not the kind of skillset you'd bet on to become a star, Tamba Hali's are super rare, but if he could be the next Mike Neal that's a hell of a deal for a UDFA.

                As an ILB I think he has the most upside specifically as a "buck" linebacker in a Capers 30 front. A FB of the defense type. His 7.09 3-cone suggests some upside in coverage. If he can develop there, he's a great find. It's rare to find a guy who can mix with lineman and also drop back into a hook zone with regularity.

                That stuff is pie in the sky. I think he'll make the team because while starting 30+ games for Stanford he was also on kick and punt coverage. Physical 250 lb guys with hot motors and special teams experience are tough cuts.
                Last edited by 3irty1; 05-19-2015, 02:33 PM.
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                • #38
                  Looking at Smidge's roster, it might be possible that Tretter is the backup OT on each side after camp. But he will need to really step up his game. Barclay has the injury to overcome, so its no lock, but right now I would bet on DB being on the roster when camp ends.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Looking at Smidge's roster, it might be possible that Tretter is the backup OT on each side after camp. But he will need to really step up his game. Barclay has the injury to overcome, so its no lock, but right now I would bet on DB being on the roster when camp ends.
                    Subconsciously, I was thinking musical chairs if a tackle goes down. TJ Lang. Backup tackle.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                      Subconsciously, I was thinking musical chairs if a tackle goes down. TJ Lang. Backup tackle.
                      Yeah its a hard call. Barclay was light years better than anyone had a right to hope in his rookie year. But he still was a hole in the pass protection (nice run blocker though). Injury just makes it harder to say. And Tretter hasn't proven ready either. Didn't Lang play his way out of Tackle in 2013, which is what brought Barclay in, or am i thinking of another year?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                        I don't think he's got much upside but considering he was the #4 linebacker recruit in the country at one point I wouldn't call him an overachiever. Its more about if his game will translate or not. If it doesn't he'll fail fast which is a plus. The versatility is the big thing with him.

                        As an OLB he reminds me a little of Erik Walden. Not quite as long or as uber physical as Walden but not as stupid either. Same strengths though in that he can set an edge really well and he's abnormally stout for his size. As a pass rusher he's more like Mike Neal than anyone else we've got. Brute strong and high motor. Not the kind of skillset you'd bet on to become a star, Tamba Hali's are super rare, but if he could be the next Mike Neal that's a hell of a deal for a UDFA.

                        As an ILB I think he has the most upside specifically as a "buck" linebacker in a Capers 30 front. A FB of the defense type. His 7.09 3-cone suggests some upside in coverage. If he can develop there, he's a great find. It's rare to find a guy who can mix with lineman and also drop back into a hook zone with regularity.

                        That stuff is pie in the sky. I think he'll make the team because while starting 30+ games for Stanford he was also on kick and punt coverage. Physical 250 lb guys with hot motors and special teams experience are tough cuts.
                        Good stuff thanks.

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                        • #42
                          I would definitely think Barclay is the backup on the right side. If Bakhtiari goes down, then swing Bulaga from the right and install Barclay. Tretter seemingly is the backup on the inside. Worst case scenario, if both tackles are out, Tretter on the left and Barclay on the right. And pray for a good day running from Lacy, because Rodgers is not going to have much time...

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                          • #43
                            My roster is offensive heavy, so I suspect injuries or a surprise cut (perhaps Quarless or even Kuhn if Ripkowski, Perillo, and Backman show potential) will even things out when it comes down to final cuts.

                            QB AARON RODGERS
                            QB Scott Tolzien
                            QB Brett Hundley

                            RB EDDIE LACY
                            RB James Starks
                            RB Rajion Neal (I hope it's Crockett, but I liked what Neal showed last year in the little we saw him)

                            FB JOHN KUHN
                            FB Aaron Ripkowski

                            WR JORDY NELSON
                            WR RANDALL COBB
                            WR Davante Adams
                            WR Ty Montgomery
                            WR Jared Abbrederis
                            WR Jeff Janis

                            TE RICHARD RODGERS
                            TE Andrew Quarless
                            TE Justin Perillo
                            TE Kennard Backman

                            OT BRYAN BULAGA
                            OT DAVID BAKHTIARI
                            OT Don Barclay

                            OG JOSH SITTON
                            OG T.J. LANG
                            OG Matt Rotheram

                            OC COREY LINSLEY
                            OC J.C. Tretter

                            DE MIKE DANIELS
                            DE JOSH BOYD
                            DE Datone Jones

                            NT B.J. RAJI
                            NT Letroy Guion
                            NT Mike Pennel

                            OLB JULIUS PEPPERS
                            OLB CLAY MATTHEWS
                            OLB Nick Perry (alternates with Neal when Matthews is inside)
                            OLB Mike Neal (alternates with Perry when Matthews is inside)
                            OLB Jayrone Elliott (I think he's the exception to the UDFA OLB making the team and then falling flat the next year)

                            ILB SAM BARRINGTON
                            ILB JAKE RYAN (plays when Matthews is outside)
                            ILB Carl Bradford
                            ILB Joe Thomas

                            CB SAM SHIELDS
                            CB CASEY HAYWARD
                            CB Damarious Randall
                            CB Quentin Rollins
                            CB Demetri Goodson

                            SS MORGAN BURNETT
                            SS Sean Richardson
                            FS HA HA CLINTON-DIX
                            FS Micah Hyde (slot CB)

                            K Mason Crosby
                            P Tim Masthay
                            LS Brett Goode
                            KR Ty Montgomery
                            PR Micah Hyde
                            Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 05-22-2015, 01:45 AM.
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #44
                              Funny how some think we will keep 6 WRS because they want Abby to make the roster...not happening.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                Abbrederis was a better route runner..and football player. Hope he makes it but he'll be the popular guy to leave off the list....white wr coming off an injury vs. the raw guy who is faster but can't run routes nearly as well
                                I'm eager to see if Abby has filled out some and his injury is healed. I don't think that injury is as career threatening as it once was. I hope we can keep Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Monty, Abby and Janis.

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