Pasquarelli:NFL Rumor Mill,(Packers enamored by Vince Young)

[Guiness]

What the heck do you mean by "country dumb" ?

You've never heard the term country dumb? It means a kid that maybe didn't get the proper learnin' in school, but he's smart in the ways of the world. I always think of those folks as smart at the few things they really like, but they aren't book smart. My Grandpa was a farmer. He didn't have an education beyond 6th grade, but he knew more about stuff (real-life stuff) then I'll ever know.

While I hear what you're saying, this shouldn't be the case with Young. He was in college (as an athlete-student, of course) and had an opportunity to do some learning.

He took the test 3 times? I thought it was only 2. Either way, mark me down as someone who thinks he won't succeed in the NFL as a QB. He might have some short term success at the pos'n like other run first guys Vick or K. Stewart, but I can't see it last. Until he proves he can do it with his arm first, I'm not a believer.

I wonder if there is thinking in ANY circles of his becoming a WR? Damn, I think he'd make a great one.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Brett Favre Wonderlic = 22.

Thanks FC! He's one smart hombre.... or maybe he pulled a Chevy Chase from "Spies Like Us"...

tyler

[HarveyWallbangers]

Brett Favre scored 22. One longtime scout said Terry Bradshaw, Jim Kelly and Dan Marino all scored 15. Marino was rumored to have scored a 13 the first time he took the test. Randall Cunningham scored 15.

Vince Young was reported to have scored a 16 the second time he took it. I think the test takes some people by surprise because they don't realize how little time they have to take it.

Interesting that LaDainian Tomlinson scored a 13--although he plays a position where smarts aren't that important. Javon Walker scored like a 7 or 8 on it.

[FavreChild]

The Wonderlic discussion inevitably comes up every year.

Here's a list of famous scores from Wikipedia. (Disclaimer: This post does not express an opinion one way or another on the significance of the Wonderlic. This is for your amusement only. )


Pat McInally, punter — 50
Mike Mamula, defensive end — 49
Kevin Curtis, wide receiver — 48
Alex Smith, quarterback — 40
Brian Griese, quarterback — 39
Eli Manning, quarterback — 39
Ryan Fitzpatrick, quarterback — 38
Akili Smith, quarterback — 37 (suspected of cheating; scored 15 on first attempt)
Matt Leinart, quarterback — 35
Tom Brady, quarterback — 33
Steve Young, quarterback — 33
John Elway, quarterback — 30
Troy Aikman, quarterback — 29
Peyton Manning, quarterback — 28
Ryan Leaf, quarterback — 27
Major Applewhite, quarterback — 26
Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback — 25
Hugh Millen, quarterback — 24
David Carr, quarterback — 24
Brett Favre, quarterback — 22
Chris Simms, quarterback — 22
Michael Vick, quarterback — 20
Vinny Testaverde, quarterback — 18
Antwaan Randle El, wide receiver (former college quarterback) — 17
Aaron Brooks, quarterback — 16
Dan Marino, quarterback — 16
Vince Young, quarterback — 16 on the re-test (erroneously reported to have scored a 6 at first when it was really a 7)
Randall Cunningham, quarterback — 15
Donovan McNabb, quarterback — 12
Marcus Vick, quarterback — 11
Jeff George, quarterback — 10
Sebastian Janikowski, placekicker — 9

[FavreChild]

Average Wonderlic scores by postion:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions are:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17

[Guiness]

Jeff George, quarterback — 10

That's pretty funny. I remember getting into arguments over him, and I always said he had a million dollar arm, and a 10 cent brain. I guess I was right!

[KYPack]

The Wonderlic discussion inevitably comes up every year.

Here's a list of famous scores from Wikipedia. (Disclaimer: This post does not express an opinion one way or another on the significance of the Wonderlic. This is for your amusement only. )


Pat McInally, punter — 50
Mike Mamula, defensive end — 49
Kevin Curtis, wide receiver — 48
Alex Smith, quarterback — 40
Brian Griese, quarterback — 39
Eli Manning, quarterback — 39
Ryan Fitzpatrick, quarterback — 38
Akili Smith, quarterback — 37 (suspected of cheating; scored 15 on first attempt)
Matt Leinart, quarterback — 35
Tom Brady, quarterback — 33
Steve Young, quarterback — 33
John Elway, quarterback — 30
Troy Aikman, quarterback — 29
Peyton Manning, quarterback — 28
Ryan Leaf, quarterback — 27
Major Applewhite, quarterback — 26
Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback — 25
Hugh Millen, quarterback — 24
David Carr, quarterback — 24
Brett Favre, quarterback — 22
Chris Simms, quarterback — 22
Michael Vick, quarterback — 20
Vinny Testaverde, quarterback — 18
Antwaan Randle El, wide receiver (former college quarterback) — 17
Aaron Brooks, quarterback — 16
Dan Marino, quarterback — 16
Vince Young, quarterback — 16 on the re-test (erroneously reported to have scored a 6 at first when it was really a 7)
Randall Cunningham, quarterback — 15
Donovan McNabb, quarterback — 12
Marcus Vick, quarterback — 11
Jeff George, quarterback — 10
Sebastian Janikowski, placekicker — 9

Good one FC

Pat McInally, punter — 50

Mac was a WR & a punter and went to Harvard. He's easily one of the smartest people I've ever met. He's worth a 100 million or so, all self made money.

The Bengals have both ends of the Wonderlic Spectrum.
S Ricky Dixon allegedly scored a 2, supposedly the lowest recorded score.

[K-town]

Ricky Dixon got a 2? Don't you get a couple of points just for knowing your own name?
Also, didn't Ricky Dixon find his way into Green Bay as a Plan B free agent or something back in the late 1980s-early 1990s? Or maybe I'm hallucinating.
I have taken an online version of the Wonderlic a couple of times, scoring a 29 and a 33. Sadly, as I have no athletic skills, I will not be considered by any GMs in the upcoming draft.

[Fritz]

Maybe Vince Young will be the next Jeremy Shockey.