Brady 4 Game Suspension Upheld

[pbmax]

Now the League Office is just stalling. I use this excuse for invoices all the time:

Tom E. Curran @tomecurran 17m17 minutes ago
The NFL acknowledged it received reinstatement request. First request sent Monday, no reply. After 2 more, league said they got it.

That is a request for the reinstatement of the two texting co-conspirators Jastremski and the Deflator (or maybe the Deflator's co-worker). This was another odd instance of each side insisting like an 8 year old that they did not do the thing they obviously did. The League at one point claimed it did not request the two be indefinitely suspended. But now it has to approve their return.

Its a 15 billion dollar per year business run by an elementary school.

[sharpe1027]

So the Pats are forcing the issue and leaking information to further their cause? Too funny. It is like watching elementary kids, but with a much bigger budget.

[Joemailman]

So the Pats are forcing the issue and leaking information to further their cause? Too funny. It is like watching elementary kids, but with a much bigger budget.

[pbmax]

Yep. Not sure this is a direct answer to the ESPN article (which was the entire League venting spleen) but it seems likely the Pats want to plant their own flag of righteousness.

[pbmax]

Cheating always sound much more fun in retrospect. Like cute Gaylord Perry with the wiping of his hand all over his hat.

Coaches have taken to using their laminated list of plays to cover their mouths when sending in instructions. Some, such as Tampa Bay's Jon Gruden, cover almost their entire face.

There is some logic to that. Ernie Accorsi, general manager of the New York Giants, was the assistant GM with the Baltimore Colts in 1977 when the team hired Bob Colbert as an administrative assistant. Colbert was a former head coach at Gallaudet, the leading university for the deaf and hard of hearing, and was a professional lip-reader.


"We didn't hire him for that reason, but lip-reading was his expertise," Accorsi said.

In the 1977 regular-season finale, a do-or-die game against New England, Colbert trained his binoculars on the Patriot defensive coordinator and saw him mouth the words "double safety blitz."

"We got that in to [quarterback] Bert Jones and he hit Raymond Chester down the middle for a 78-yard touchdown," said Accorsi, whose team won the division and got into the playoffs with that win.

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/oct/05/sports/sp-nflfeature5

[pbmax]

The above article is a must read. Here is the story of testing what would become Paul Brown and the NFL's first radio system:

The inventors carefully mounted the receiver in a Cleveland helmet and tested it in a secluded area behind Campbell's home. Sarles would wander into the woods wearing the helmet, and Campbell would try to keep contact with him. They found the signal got weak very quickly and, once, Campbell searched all over for Sarles before spotting him talking to a police officer who had located the signal. The officer was a Brown fan, according to a Pro Football Hall of Fame account of the story, and promised not to reveal the radio secret to anyone.

This article features Bum Phillips, Marv Levy and Ditka being a dope, yet succeeding. It has everything.

[pbmax]

So the NFL is not releasing results from game testing of ball pressure during 2015, thereby ruining the chance for football to confirm the Ideal Gas Law.

New England is incensed and it looks a LOT like the NFL did not want to bolster Brady's case against their appeal of the Federal ruling last fall. I am pretty stunned that Brady's team did not raise a bigger stink.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/02/nfl-blows-chance-to-fully-understand-football-air-pressure/

[Rutnstrut]

So the NFL is not releasing results from game testing of ball pressure during 2015, thereby ruining the chance for football to confirm the Ideal Gas Law.

New England is incensed and it looks a LOT like the NFL did not want to bolster Brady's case against their appeal of the Federal ruling last fall. I am pretty stunned that Brady's team did not raise a bigger stink.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-air-pressure/

Makes sense since it was a witch hunt from the start.

[mraynrand]

Makes sense since it was a witch hunt from the start.

Nah. They knew he was screwing with his balls, but they just didn't catch him with his pants down, and nobody got knocked up, so it didn't matter.

[pbmax]

Nah. They knew he was screwing with his balls, but they just didn't catch him with his pants down, and nobody got knocked up, so it didn't matter.

Perhaps, but they aren't going to win their appeal if those numbers back up the idea that the balls weren't under-inflated at the start of the game.

I'd still bet the scheme was to keep the balls at 12.5, or a tick lower, no matter what the officials did. Still circumvention, but not exactly the same thing.

[mraynrand]

Perhaps, but they aren't going to win their appeal if those numbers back up the idea that the balls weren't under-inflated at the start of the game.

I'd still bet the scheme was to keep the balls at 12.5, or a tick lower, no matter what the officials did. Still circumvention, but not exactly the same thing.

you know and I know that they futzed with their balls. But nobody really cares because 1) they can't prove they did it 2) they can't prove it couldn't or wouldn't happen naturally 3) it didn't affect the game and 4) If anyone cares at all, they mostly side with Brady because of 1-3 or oppose Brady/Belicheat because of how they perceived them before this 'scandal'

[pbmax]

you know and I know that they futzed with their balls. But nobody really cares because 1) they can't prove they did it 2) they can't prove it couldn't or wouldn't happen naturally 3) it didn't affect the game and 4) If anyone cares at all, they mostly side with Brady because of 1-3 or oppose Brady/Belicheat because of how they perceived them before this 'scandal'

I don't care what we "know" because we are way past that having any effect. I care that the NFL loses this appeal. I hope the NFLPA or the judge orders those numbers entered into the court record.

[mraynrand]

I don't care what we "know" because we are way past that having any effect. I care that the NFL loses this appeal. I hope the NFLPA or the judge orders those numbers entered into the court record.

interesting

[pbmax]

I find it odd that the ball were removed from the officials room. But I find it almost as odd as there is no evidence that it had happened before. Because the cell phone thing made it sound like a regular event.

There has to be a way to square those two things and I think a scheme to not let the officials re-inflate the balls might fit the bill.

But as I said, that doesn't matter much now. I just want the bar for NFL investigations to be raised higher.

[mraynrand]

I just want the bar for NFL investigations to be raised higher.

I figured that's where you're coming from. The NFL obviously doesn't want to have to admit that there's no difference in the balls, regardless, that is, that all can be explained by normal variation. In hindsight (and maybe some foresight we didn't have at the time) they picked really weak soil on which to plant their flag.