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  • #16
    Jones comes back this week. That might help with some pass rush.

    Guiana back in 2 more weeks will help run D.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #17
      I probably shouldn't have had HHCD on the Duds list. He was solid on the back end. It's just that those 2 terrible missed tackles left an impression on me. I suppose I still miss Nick Collins.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        I probably shouldn't have had HHCD on the Duds list. He was solid on the back end. It's just that those 2 terrible missed tackles left an impression on me. I suppose I still miss Nick Collins.
        It took Nick a couple of seasons before he was All-Pro too.

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        • #19
          Studs: Rodgers, Lacy, JJ, Clay, Offensive line, Jay Cutler

          Duds:

          Shields had a miserable day. The special teams blunder would have been bad enough on his own but he also played atrocious defense.

          Credit to HHCD for being athletic and instinctive enough to be in the position to miss so many tackles around the line of scrimmage. I actually think we missed Burnett.

          Before he got hurt Barrington he looked committed to continuing the long tradition of piloting the soft underbelly of the Packers defense. Being next to Palmer made him look indecisive and slow.

          DL. Raji actually didn't look to bad but in general this unit wasn't winning their one-on-ones. I'll have to rewatch the game to be more specific with the blame.
          70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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          • #20
            I would add O line to Duds list. For pass protection at least. Seemed like a lot of traffic in the pocket plus the penalties.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              I would add O line to Duds list. For pass protection at least. Seemed like a lot of traffic in the pocket plus the penalties.
              I disagree. The o-line wasn't a dud but I wouldn't put them as a stud either.

              The O had 7 drives (other than the snap to end the first half) and scored 5 times and went 4 for 5 on red zones TDs.

              The o-line had to be at least solid to do that.
              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

              -Tim Harmston

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              • #22
                double
                70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  I would add O line to Duds list. For pass protection at least. Seemed like a lot of traffic in the pocket plus the penalties.
                  The holding penalty on Bach was bogus. There were the false starts but for the most part they kept Rodgers plenty clean and he pushed it at times with how long he held the ball.

                  Mainly though I've been conditioned by these McCarthy teams to expect the OL's run blocking to be garbage until about week 8 at the earliest. This week they came out of the gate driving people off the ball and executing the inside zone really well. Health permitting and if they progress on the normal McCarthy trajectory, they'll be unstoppable by mid season.
                  70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    I would add O line to Duds list. For pass protection at least. Seemed like a lot of traffic in the pocket plus the penalties.
                    Rodgers was only hit once or twice all day. I hardly see how that can be considered a dud, especially after the group played sparingly together in real action during the preseason.
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                      Rodgers was only hit once or twice all day. I hardly see how that can be considered a dud, especially after the group played sparingly together in real action during the preseason.
                      Well, when he can move he doesn't tend to get hit. He had at least four runs bailing out of a pocket plus spontaneous boots. However, as 3irty1 points out, Rodgers was hanging onto the ball again on some plays.

                      Like the lack of a longer pass game, pass pro just seemed a little loose for my liking. Maybe thats not a dud, but thought it worth discussing.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        O Line was a work in progress the whole game. A couple of untimely penalties that killed big gains or scores. They were a B- or C grade. Rodgers mobility without injury mitigated some of the shortcomings with the line.

                        Stud - Jay Cutler. You can always count that putz to throw an untimely pick or give up a fumble. JJ - Stud for playing like he never left and took a ton of pressure off of Cobb.
                        Dud - Sam Shields. He had one very good pass defensed vs. Jeffrey. But otherwise he either couldn't stay onside, tackle or cover consistently.
                        RUn Defense - DUD. HORRIBLE HORRIBLE tackling.
                        Montgomery - Stud. A much much needed upgrade from the past several years of miserable KO returns.
                        -digital dean

                        No "TROLLS" allowed!

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                        • #27
                          The O-Line played well. Rodgers had all day and Lacy had room to run. This OL usually starts out slow, so I'm hopeful they stay healthy. I'm excited about the OL. The only player on the OL that I wouldn't consider well above average is the LT. And there's hope for him. He improved from below average to serviceable last year. Maybe he can take a step up to above average this year.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • #28
                            Duds: 1) obviously the defense. The front 7 was really locked up and manhandled for most of the game. And even when we broke free of blocks and were in position to make plays, we tackled poorly, didn't accelerate, and took bad angles.
                            2)The field. Watching players(especially the packers) slipping and sliding and falling over each other all game. Not sure what the solution is but these notoriously shitty fields like Heinz and Soldier really diminish the quality of the game, not to mention adding to the risk of serious injury.
                            3)Sam Shields. Get your head out your ass. You make too much coin to be doing dumb shit like that, cost us big today.
                            4) Troy Aikman and Joe Buck. Wouldn't come off the dumb narrative that Cutler had magically turned the corner and that some intangible maturation had taken place and he was going to be different this season. Ignoring the fact that he was completing only half his passes and that his "maturation" was nothing more than Fox taking the ball out of his hands. All I saw was the same ol Cutler.

                            Studs:1)Aaron was his normal bastion of efficiency.
                            2)Receivers made some great plays....JJ especially.
                            3)Rookies.....MOntgomery showed some explosion, and Randall was exactly what you want out of first year db ...... For the most part invisible.

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                            • #29
                              Officiating was a dud. Apparantly defensive PI isn't a thing anymore? Too many phantom calls, Richardson's being the worst, and the holding being second. Overall a sloppy game by the officials, but at least they caught Cobb covering the TE, because that's a POE this season... because it's obviously ruining the game.

                              And as usual, Buck/Aikman were duds. Most annoying commentary was on Jones' first TD, where he had one arm being held down and the defender's body all up in him, and Aikman praising the great coverage.
                              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                              • #30
                                Stud - Lacy. He has a real knack for finding those running lanes in traffic and that catch was fantastic. His decisions to run outside, not so good. He can't outrun most WWII vets to the outside let alone NFL defenders.
                                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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