The ones GB let get away

[mraynrand]

Perhaps they miss Scott Lineman, who is in Dallas missing Tony Romo and probably Stafford.

autocorrect strikes again!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Ras has the wisdom of experience. In the last 15 years, Culpepper, Jackson and Ponder each seemed to have long range potential at one time or another, yet not one ever provided the long term stability needed at the position. But that isn't uncommon. The list of QBs who for 2, 3 or 4 years looked like they could get there, but never did, is very very long.

When did T-Jack or Ponder ever have long range potential? I must have missed that reality.

[pbmax]

autocorrect strikes again!

Going to switch to linux any day now.

[Tony Oday]

Bridgewater is not a good QB.

[Fritz]

There have been writeups that the passing game of the Lions is designed terribly compared to previous years. They are very limited in what they do. There is disagreement over whether this is coach mandated to be in adherence with the scheme or if they are covering for deficiencies of the talent. Mostly the result is that they have neutered the best weapon they have, Megatron.

Perhaps they miss Scott LINEHAN!, who is in Dallas missing Tony Romo and probably Stafford.

I've read all that too, and it's funny. The narrative coming into the season was that this was the first time Stafford had the same offensive coordinator two years running, that he was kept a little on a leash last year as he learned the nuances of the offense, but this year they were taking the leash off. Said he looked very comfortable and was making great decisions with the ball in preseason.

[Patler]

When did T-Jack or Ponder ever have long range potential? I must have missed that reality.

They each had their moments. They got positive press when they played conservatively and managed games well. There were times when each looked like they had potential to develop into not great but at least competent starters. There were times when some thought each could be around a while. Bridgewater is about where each Jackson and Ponder was at one time or another.

[Rastak]

They each had their moments. They got positive press when they played conservatively and managed games well. There were times when each looked like they had potential to develop into not great but at least competent starters. There were times when some thought each could be around a while. Bridgewater is about where each Jackson and Ponder was at one time or another.

Once those guys had a few starts it was kind of clear Viking fans were left to just hope those two develop, no real film, just hope. Here, I feel pretty confident the guy is at least competent. He set a number of Viking rookie records and was about a top 3 QB to finish the year last year (meaning his last 7 games). Now again, I don't want to crown his ass to quote Denny Green but he's coming along just fine.

[smuggler]

Bridgewater will need maybe one more year. His ceiling is Drew Brees, which is not bad. No clue if he will pan out. But, the alternative at the time was Manziel, so you have that going for you... supid Browns...

[Guiness]

They each had their moments. They got positive press when they played conservatively and managed games well. There were times when each looked like they had potential to develop into not great but at least competent starters. There were times when some thought each could be around a while. Bridgewater is about where each Jackson and Ponder was at one time or another.

Did Ponder play that well ever? He had a decent season the year AP ran for 2000+, but I don't recall him ever being more than competent, and of course, often not even that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Bridgewater will need maybe one more year. His ceiling is Drew Brees, which is not bad.

Not bad!? Drew Brees had elite career.

I'd say Bridgewater's ceiling is closer to Matt Stafford. And I predict his career will be closer to Seneca Wallace than Drew Breeze.

[smuggler]

It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. If you look at Brees in his first few seasons (with SD) you can see why my comparison is valid. I'd say that's a fair estimate of Teddy's ceiling. Not that he's certain to reach it, by any means.

"Rodgers' ceiling is Steve Young 2.0" which is not bad.

[Patler]

Did Ponder play that well ever? He had a decent season the year AP ran for 2000+, but I don't recall him ever being more than competent, and of course, often not even that.

Not for a whole season, no. But he beat the Packers the last game of 2012, with 3 TD passes and had generally played well-enough the end of that season for the Vikings to win a bunch of games and grab a playoff spot. Sure, Peterson was the key, but Ponder gave them a steady, not stellar, passing game, even if it was basically just to the TEs. I know an awful lot of Packer fans were encouraged when Ponder wasn't available the next week in the playoff game against the Packers.

[run pMc]

I think Bridgewater's ceiling is closer to Donovan McNabb or Matt Ryan than Drew Brees, but maybe I'm overvaluing Brees' play from his heyday, which was elite IMO. Bridgewater seems to float the ball sometimes, has had accuracy issues with long throws and (understadably) still makes dumb rookie decisions at times.

Ponder had his share of good games, and he had games where you were shaking your head. Not sure if he just needed more time/coaching, or if he was destined to be a clipboard holder.

Never understood the Manziel love, but Cleveland hasn't exactly been great at picking QB's (Couch, Weeden, etc.). Weeden was the worst pick -- 28 year olds aren't going to develop much.

As for ones GB let get away, how's Myles White doing? Is Paris Lenon still in the league?

[Patler]

As for ones GB let get away, how's Myles White doing? Is Paris Lenon still in the league?

Paris Lenon had an interesting career. At 37, he is now retired, after playing 189 NFL games, 125 after leaving GB and 112 of those as a starter. He last played in 2013 for Denver, starting all playoff games, including the Super Bowl. Very nice 12 year career. Nothing impressive about his career, except that he always found work as a starter.

[Rastak]

The way the Vikes are talking up Diggs, he'll be on the All-Pro team.

My guess is Johnson has cracked ribs and can't extend to catch the ball or run much. I'd guess he'll be back this week or next. Pretty wild how far Corderelle Patterson has fallen - he pretty much is a KR and that's it.

That dude is playing like it, holy shit.