Studs/Duds Week 3

[pbmax]

I'll grant PFF that he can be downgraded for the pass that should have been intercepted. But he shouldn't be downgraded for the fumble that was wiped out by a penalty. The penalty is probably what caused Rodgers to hang onto the ball long enough for the fumble to occur.

They also make an error by adjusting too much credit to Cobb for 3 of the touchdown passes. They make the case that the throw was short of the end zone. But the play called for that, that route was open against the particular D alignment they wanted to run it against, and he hit Cobb with an accurate ball.

Its not a 45 yard bomb that lets the receiver outrun everyone, but 3 of them are worth more than average status. Its not a handoff.

[SMBASS]

This tells me everything I need to know about PFF's, "Rating" system and why it has no value to me.



Teddy Bridgewater, graded the EXACT SAME as Rodgers.



Eli Manning +3.4 (23/32, 279 YDS, 2 TD, 0 INT)

Dalton +5.8 (20/32, 383, 3, 1)

Carr +2.9 (20/32, 314, 2, 0)

Newton +3.8 (20/31, 315 2, 0)

Cousins -0.9 (30/49, 316, 1 , 2)

Winston +0.2 (17/36, 261, 1, 1)

Mallet +1.1 (24/39, 228, 1, 1)

Mariota +2.4 (27/44, 367, 2, 2)

Bortles -0.7 (17/33, 242, 2, 1)

Bridgewater -0.8 (13/24, 121, 0, 1)

Foles +0.8 (19/28, 197, 0, 1)

Roethlisberger +3.0 (20/24, 192, 0, 1)

Payton +2.4 (31/42, 324, 2, 1)

Rodgers -0.8 (24/35, 333, 5, 0)

[HarveyWallbangers]

Perry is the unsung hero. The guy is a solid player, when he plays. He really is. With Perry, Neal, Peppers, and now Elliott there isn't a lot of need to rush Clay back to OLB. I like how they are using him.

[KYPack]

Perry is the unsung hero. The guy is a solid player, when he plays. He really is. With Perry, Neal, Peppers, and now Elliott there isn't a lot of need to rush Clay back to OLB. I like how they are using him.

Yup.

Perry is a one trick guy, but that stunt is a good one. He abuses both tackles and guards. If you don't pick him up square and strong, he'll run right over your ass. I hope they resign the guy.

[mraynrand]

Yup.

Perry is a one trick guy, but that stunt is a good one. He abuses both tackles and guards. If you don't pick him up square and strong, he'll run right over your ass. I hope they resign the guy.

That's what Trgovac thinks. basically sees the guy as an OLB who is physically stout in the run game and get great upfield push against lineman in pass rush. When I mentioned the "2-4" his response was "you've seen Perry, play, haven't you?" They like Perry.

I like this coaching staff - they play to their player's strengths and/or to what's best for the team. Doesn't always work, but it's pretty solid.

[run pMc]

Joe Thomas got completely bulldozed on at least two of Jamaal Charles' TD runs. Yes, he's an undersized dime backer, but I'm not sure I'd give him the Fuckdoggle award.

The defense played pretty inspired in the 1st half. 2nd half KC made adjustments and were in hurry up mode, but Charles was effectively taken out of the game...which I think was the goal. The refs blew the HHCD roughing call and the 4th down spot, but if GB hadn't blown all its timeouts it would've been an 18 point win. Either way, I thought it was going to be a much closer, lower-scoring game and am happy they got the win.

Also, there is no way Bridgewater played as well as Rodgers. Not even close. PFF can shove their ratings. 5TDs, 0 Ints...enough said.

[George Cumby]

Yup.

Perry is a one trick guy, but that stunt is a good one. He abuses both tackles and guards. If you don't pick him up square and strong, he'll run right over your ass. I hope they resign the guy.

His stats aren't going to draw loads of interest, a few sacks a year. I wouldn't think his game of setting the edge and bull rushing to squeeze the pocket is going to make him too pricey.......

[ThunderDan]

Yup.

Perry is a one trick guy, but that stunt is a good one. He abuses both tackles and guards. If you don't pick him up square and strong, he'll run right over your ass. I hope they resign the guy.

I thought that until last night also. On a few plays I was concentrating on Perry. He would bull rush time after time. Then, on one rush the OT had dropped and was ready for the bull rush. Perry slapped the OTs hands away and burst right around him. It would have been a sack but it was a quick slant to the other side.

[KYPack]

I thought that until last night also. On a few plays I was concentrating on Perry. He would bull rush time after time. Then, on one rush the OT had dropped and was ready for the bull rush. Perry slapped the OTs hands away and burst right around him. It would have been a sack but it was a quick slant to the other side.

Perry can and will make a counter move to his bull rush. He doesn't do it much because his bull rush is that good. He is a force at attacking the opponents pass pro schemes. Also with Perry getting good traction with the bull rush, the offense needs some help in pass pro on him. That opens up Daniels, who was very effective up the middle. Perry was doubly effective vs Fisher the young RT who has many issues in Pass Pro. It was a bad match-up for KC and it showed throughout the ball game.

[pbmax]

I think the Packers will need to make an adjustment in close quarters to their dime with Thomas in there. He can't man the middle alone on a run. Daniels and Raji were both outside the Guards. They clearly wanted Clay to rush some, but did anyone see Mulumba taking any snaps in the middle? He was relief there last week and I did not see him even after Ryan went down.

Reporters talked a lot about Capers throwing all the alignments in this game because of injuries. I wonder if a nickel with Palmer and Thomas as ILB wouldn't cover both Patriot like short passing and the threat of run on long distance downs.

Perry does what he does well, he's consistent and available despite pre-season dings. He will never be quick twitch like Clay or Walden, but reliable and available with a second move isn't bad either. Might even be making a contract drive finally.

He and Jones function in much the same way. Reduce the space the QB has to operate and threaten him. Then Peppers, Matthews, Daniels make him pay.

If you ever see the Colts, you can still see Walden going 100 miles an hour, occasionally going around things he should attack, but also chasing and catching things he has no business running down. I think Indy is actually please he's there. Of course, that D is struggling in a big way.

[sharpe1027]

Wrong thread.

[pbmax]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-packers-vs-chiefs-b99586912z1-330045601.html

Nick Perry put up 3½ pressures in 33 snaps, including a strong up-the-field sack against Stephenson in 2.5 seconds.

[pbmax]

According to CheeseheadTV (the most trustworthy name in Dairy Broadcasting), PFF suddenly and quietly amended its grade for Aaron Rodgers yesterday.

It now stands at +0.7. Can anyone confirm?

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packing-the-stats-a-closer-look-at-aaron-rodgers-pff-grade-against-chiefs?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CheeseheadTv+%28Cheesehead+TV%29

This tells me everything I need to know about PFF's, "Rating" system and why it has no value to me.



Teddy Bridgewater, graded the EXACT SAME as Rodgers.



Eli Manning +3.4 (23/32, 279 YDS, 2 TD, 0 INT)

Dalton +5.8 (20/32, 383, 3, 1)

Carr +2.9 (20/32, 314, 2, 0)

Newton +3.8 (20/31, 315 2, 0)

Cousins -0.9 (30/49, 316, 1 , 2)

Winston +0.2 (17/36, 261, 1, 1)

Mallet +1.1 (24/39, 228, 1, 1)

Mariota +2.4 (27/44, 367, 2, 2)

Bortles -0.7 (17/33, 242, 2, 1)

Bridgewater -0.8 (13/24, 121, 0, 1)

Foles +0.8 (19/28, 197, 0, 1)

Roethlisberger +3.0 (20/24, 192, 0, 1)

Payton +2.4 (31/42, 324, 2, 1)

Rodgers -0.8 (24/35, 333, 5, 0)

[mraynrand]

PB, your posts are formulaic. I rate you -0.8 as a Packerrats poster.

[Fritz]

Perry can and will make a counter move to his bull rush. He doesn't do it much because his bull rush is that good. He is a force at attacking the opponents pass pro schemes. Also with Perry getting good traction with the bull rush, the offense needs some help in pass pro on him. That opens up Daniels, who was very effective up the middle. Perry was doubly effective vs Fisher the young RT who has many issues in Pass Pro. It was a bad match-up for KC and it showed throughout the ball game.

I suppose I should re-watch the Seattle game; the times I kept an eye on him on a pass rush, he seemed to try to go outside, would get pushed upfield, then spin back but get eaten up by the right tackle.

Did he do anything but that? Why was he not so effective in that game, or was he and I didn't see it?