Week 4 Other Games

[ThunderDan]

Wow, 80 yard TD throw on the 2nd play. Victory NO.

[HarveyWallbangers]

3 point loss on the road.....I gotta tell you, that Den defense is REALLY tough. If you guys play 'em, have fun.

Manning did all he could to keep the Vikings in the game. He looks like a shell of himself. Goes back to the middle of last year.

[mraynrand]

Manning did all he could to keep the Vikings in the game.

did the same for a half vs KC. How he rallied in that game is beyond me, but they would never have won that game without a great defensive effort and huge KC mistakes.

Manning is getting by on his accumulated wiles and tricks.

[mraynrand]

In case you missed it:

SAN DIEGO, Calif. -- Quarterback Josh McCown matched five-time Pro Bowl quarterback Philip Rivers almost point for point, but it wasn't enough in the end after Tramon Williams jumped offside on a last-second field attempt.

The Browns lost to the San Diego Chargers, 30-27, Sunday on a 34-yard field goal as time expired after McCown brought them back time and again. The kick was a Mulligan after Browns cornerback Williams jumped offside on the first attempt, a 39-yarder that sailed wide right.

Cleveland does something to a man, and it usually isn't good. #factoryofsadness

[Guiness]

PFT is pretty convinced Philbin is done in Miami, and the coach their suggesting as a replacement is pretty funny -

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/05/suhs-shoe-choice-at-practice-seen-by-teammates-as-a-message/

Sherman! I sure didn't expect to see his name mentioned ever again...

[Pugger]

did the same for a half vs KC. How he rallied in that game is beyond me, but they would never have won that game without a great defensive effort and huge KC mistakes.

Manning is getting by on his accumulated wiles and tricks.

He's getting by because of his defense.

[mraynrand]

He's getting by because of his defense.

That's what is saving the team (as I mentioned). Manning himself is only staying on the field due to his bag of tricks and accumulated wisdom.

[Cheesehead Craig]

In other news, Winston is awful.

[Zool]

In other news, Winston is awful.

JaMarcus Winston will probably never be good. He'll eat himself out of the league in 3 years.

[Fritz]

Seahawks minus Lynch tonight - in a game the Lions will be desperate for. This should be a good one. We'll see if that Detroit O-line can get anything going tonight.

[hoosier]

Seahawks minus Lynch tonight - in a game the Lions will be desperate for. This should be a good one. We'll see if that Detroit O-line can get anything going tonight.

Detroit has looked awful so far this year. Their offense has been worse than last year's uninspired group, and the defense has lost its bite. Do they miss Suh and Fairly that much, or is it that plus Levy? I see the Seahawks winning handily, 24-3.

[pbmax]

Scott Linehan doesn't get enough credit for making this team's offense good. That guy can flat out coach an O.

The Cowboys nearly beat Brees with Brandon Weeden as their starter.

[Patler]

PFT is pretty convinced Philbin is done in Miami, and the coach their suggesting as a replacement is pretty funny -

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/05/suhs-shoe-choice-at-practice-seen-by-teammates-as-a-message/

Sherman! I sure didn't expect to see his name mentioned ever again...

Wasn't there an article about Sherman last summer, in which he said he was done moving? I think it said he had offers, but turned them done. I think he took a high school HC job where he is living,

[Fritz]

Detroit has looked awful so far this year. Their offense has been worse than last year's uninspired group, and the defense has lost its bite. Do they miss Suh and Fairly that much, or is it that plus Levy? I see the Seahawks winning handily, 24-3.

I think the Lions' defensive coordinator used Suh better than the Dolphins have used him, and his loss, plus Andre Levy not playing, has killed this defense.

The offensive line is young, but Seattle is a tough place to try to come of age.

[pbmax]

I think the Lions' defensive coordinator used Suh better than the Dolphins have used him, and his loss, plus Andre Levy not playing, has killed this defense.

The offensive line is young, but Seattle is a tough place to try to come of age.

The Lions were complaining this week about it being a 2 gapping system. DC however is down a healthy Cameron Wake and someone else, so the pass rush is not what it was anyway.