Studs And Duds - Packers vs. 49ers

[smuggler]

About the only guy on the team I feel we need to replace is Maathay. Would be nice to get a LT ptospect to upgrade from Bakhtiari, but he's passable. Barclay is only supposed to be a backup to begin with.

[pbmax]

Peppers had some nice pass rush turns where he forced CK to move into others. But mainly he cleaned up well once CK decided to bail. Its hard to avoid the grasp of three elephant types, Peppers, Neal and Jones. I liked that four man rush (with Matthews) more than the blitzing earlier which opened some holes in the backend.

[Zool]

Isn't Perry a typical elephant-type?

[pbmax]

Isn't Perry a typical elephant-type?

Sort of. He's big and strong enough, but he isn't that long. And his best move is his bull rush. Though one of his sacks was speed based as Joe Staley sat hard inside and Perry (who does have good speed but isn't quick like Matthews) went right around him. That's a good sign.

But back to your point, even if he is an elephant on this D, he wasn't out there during the 4 man rush at the end. It was Peppers, Matthews, Neal, Daniels and Jones (subbing in). Not as much Perry in that alignment.

[mraynrand]

Sort of. He's big and strong enough, but he isn't that long. And his best move is his bull rush. Though one of his sacks was speed based as Joe Staley sat hard inside and Perry (who does have good speed but isn't quick like Matthews) went right around him. That's a good sign.

But back to your point, even if he is an elephant on this D, he wasn't out there during the 4 man rush at the end. It was Peppers, Matthews, Neal, Daniels and Jones (subbing in). Not as much Perry in that alignment.

This makes sense. Perry is out there to spell Peppers mostly on the obvious run plays, it seems to me (I didn't add up the SF numbers). Dude just puts in the time and does a lot of dirty work. That's why I was so excited he picked up a sack. he's the unassuming lunch pail guy on the Packers.




Oh it's the Meek...blessed are the Meek! That's nice, I'm glad they're getting something, 'cause they have a hell of a time.

[run pMc]

Claymaker! Dear god!

LOL yeah CM3 looks like he's in a death metal band, and of course A-Rod with the photobomb.

[Zool]

Sort of. He's big and strong enough, but he isn't that long. And his best move is his bull rush. Though one of his sacks was speed based as Joe Staley sat hard inside and Perry (who does have good speed but isn't quick like Matthews) went right around him. That's a good sign.

But back to your point, even if he is an elephant on this D, he wasn't out there during the 4 man rush at the end. It was Peppers, Matthews, Neal, Daniels and Jones (subbing in). Not as much Perry in that alignment.

Interesting. He's listed as the same height as Neal but 3 pounds heavier.

[pbmax]

Interesting. He's listed as the same height as Neal but 3 pounds heavier.

I would not have guessed that from the way they play, but now that you write it, I do remember being surprised about Neal's height before.

Maybe elephant designation wasn't the best way to qualify that package. I mainly meant that outside of Matthews (who has missed CK as much as he has caught him in other games), Jones, Peppers and Neal seem to be able to catch Colin in the middle of the pocket when he flushes forward. I like that lineup against him.

[Bossman641]

Shields has been a stud lately. After struggling against Chicago his play has been phenomenal. I believe this was the second game where he didn't give up a reception (Seattle was the first). Has a pick in 2 straight games and he's been pretty aggressive with his tackling.

[Fritz]

I would not have guessed that from the way they play, but now that you write it, I do remember being surprised about Neal's height before.

Maybe elephant designation wasn't the best way to qualify that package. I mainly meant that outside of Matthews (who has missed CK as much as he has caught him in other games), Jones, Peppers and Neal seem to be able to catch Colin in the middle of the pocket when he flushes forward. I like that lineup against him.

I wonder if that lineup can catch Russell Wilson.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Shields has been a stud lately. After struggling against Chicago his play has been phenomenal. I believe this was the second game where he didn't give up a reception (Seattle was the first). Has a pick in 2 straight games and he's been pretty aggressive with his tackling.

No doubt, and Randall looks like the real deal. Where's Wist? I'm sure his vacation will end soon after the Packers lose a game.

[mraynrand]

No doubt, and Randall looks like the real deal. Where's Wist? I'm sure his vacation will end soon after the Packers lose a game.

You are appropriately cynical. repped.

[ThunderDan]

No doubt, and Randall looks like the real deal. Where's Wist? I'm sure his vacation will end soon after the Packers lose a game.

He did show up for a post or two after SEA took the lead against the Packers in the game day thread.

[mraynrand]

Wist is the classic Foul Weather Fan. He shows up to vent and criticize:

I think every Packer fan knows dunderdummy is going to cough up a hairball... the Seachickens really have gotten the better of our defense, but they've shot themselves in the foot enough on offense, that the game is close.

It's entirely possible that this 2nd half gets very ugly...

We getting dominated on both sides of the ball now...

Without our secret weapon not working (getting them to jump offside) we can't control their defensive front - and on offsense?? Well, dunderdummy is our DC...

Looks bleak

It's over, lol...

Wilson is going to rake up 500 yds in the 2nd half... we're right back to the end of the NFCCG.

Can we fire Dom now??

That coverage wasn't bad?? Are you blind??

No wonder you love Dom... you think 'that' was good coverage??

nag, nag, nag!!

[call_me_ishmael]

When does Rollins get some snaps in the slot? If he is solid, I don't think Hayward is back. They can't pay everyone and it's clear Raji and Daniels are going to get big contracts - hopefully here.

Never would have guessed that a few years ago. Hayward was a stud but he seems to have regressed a bit.