ND72 Mock Draft

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: ND72 Mock Draft

Good stab, ND72. I'll take my first shot at a mock draft.

1. Houston Texans – RB Reggie Bush, USC
2. New Orleans Saints – DE Mario Williams, NC State
3. Tennessee Titans – QB Vince Young, Texas
4. New York Jets – QB Matt Leinart, USC
5. Green Bay Packers – LB AJ Hawk, LB Ohio State
6. San Francisco 49ers – TE Vernon Davis, Maryland
7. Oakland Raiders – S Michael Huff, Texas
8. Buffalo Bills – OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
9. Detroit Lions – DT Brodrick Bunkley, Florida State
10. Arizona Cardinals – QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
11. St. Louis Rams – DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon
12. Cleveland Browns – LB Ernie Sims, Florida State
13. Baltimore Ravens – OT Winston Justice, USC
14. Philadelphia Eagles – WR Chad Jackson, Florida
15. Denver Broncos – WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State
16. Miami Dolphins – S Donte Whitner, Ohio State
17. Minnesota Vikings – LB Chad Greenway, Iowa
18. Dallas Cowboys – DE/LB Kamerion Wimbley, Florida State
19. San Diego Chargers – CB Tye Hill, Clemson
20. Kansas City Chiefs – CB Jonathan Joseph, South Carolina
21. New England Patriots – RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis
22. Denver Broncos – RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota
23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – CB Jimmy Williams, Virginia Tech
24. Cincinnati Bengals – DT Claude Wroten, LSU
25. New York Giants – LB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State
26. Chicago Bears – WR Sinorice Moss, Miami (Fla)
27. Carolina Panthers – LB DeMeco Ryans, Alabama
28. Jacksonville Jaguars – DE/LB Manny Lawson, North Carolina State
29. New York Jets – RB LenDale White, USC
30. Indianapolis Colts – CB Antonio Cromartie, Florida State
31. Seattle Seahawks – C Nick Mangold, Ohio State
32. Pittsburgh Steelers – S/CB Jason Allen, Tennessee

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: ND72 Mock Draft

1. Houston Texans – RB Reggie Bush, USC
2. New Orleans Saints – DE Mario Williams, NC State
3. Tennessee Titans – QB Vince Young, Texas
4. New York Jets – QB Matt Leinart, USC
5. Green Bay Packers – LB AJ Hawk, LB Ohio State

I think you're right. And coincidentally, those are the players, in that order, that I most wish would fall to #5.

[The Shadow]

Never saw Hawk being 'invisible'. Just a great player.
Saw several games in which both Williams & Huff WERE invisible.

[Bretsky]

Never saw Hawk being 'invisible'. Just a great player.
Saw several games in which both Williams & Huff WERE invisible.

I agree; HAWK IS THE GUY. Best and most consistent defensive player in college football last year, hands down.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.

[Bretsky]

Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.

That's a crappy stat Tank. I was at that game in the slushy rain. How many tackles did Hawk have ? I'd bet you'd have to look it up so again, that stat doesn't mean a lick as there is a lot more to a full game's running yardage given up that one player. He's in nearly every play, and he's a hell of a lot more consistent than Huff and makes a lot more big plays.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.

That's a crappy stat Tank. I was at that game in the slushy rain. How many tackles did Hawk have ? I'd bet you'd have to look it up so again, that stat doesn't mean a lick as there is a lot more to a full game's running yardage given up that one player. He's in nearly every play, and he's a hell of a lot more consistent than Huff and makes a lot more big plays.

How many DBs in the NFL can play both CB and S in the prime of their careers? Most, if not all, pro bowl safeties cant cover like an all pro CB and most, if not all, CBs cant tackle like an all pro S. Michael Huff can make the pro bowl at any of the two position, although he's best suited for S so that his talent would be utilizes to its max.

Hawk is just a linebacker. Huff is a CB/S/KR/PR

[Bretsky]

Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.

That's a crappy stat Tank. I was at that game in the slushy rain. How many tackles did Hawk have ? I'd bet you'd have to look it up so again, that stat doesn't mean a lick as there is a lot more to a full game's running yardage given up that one player. He's in nearly every play, and he's a hell of a lot more consistent than Huff and makes a lot more big plays.

How many DBs in the NFL can play both CB and S in the prime of their careers? Most, if not all, pro bowl safeties cant cover like an all pro CB and most, if not all, CBs cant tackle like an all pro S. Michael Huff can make the pro bowl at any of the two position, although he's best suited for S so that his talent would be utilizes to its max.

Hawk is just a linebacker. Huff is a CB/S/KR/PR

AND an inconsistent one. And I don't buy that Huff can play either position and excel. You said yourself you've seen him play about two games. I've witnessed many more. He's dang good, but your reading too much Huff hype on thet Net. And we have a guy in GB that can play two positions in Nick Collins. Sure we could use Huff, but Hawk is the better player. Now if they trade to 8-10, and Davis and Hawk are gone then Huff is the guy.

Positions aside, Hawk is just a better football player than Huff.
Smash Mouth
Vocal Leader
Intense

He's the attitude we need leading that defense.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

double post

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think more often then not, NFL defenses are lead by a S not lb. Brain Dawkins in Philledephia, Sharper in Minnesota, Roy Williams in Dallas, and last year Ed Reed with the Ray Lewis-less Ravens. Those teams have top defesnes without having a All Pro LB.

You can argue that LBs like Urlacher and Lewis are capable of carrying their teams but many experts have said that Hawk is not in their league. Would you rather have a protential all-pro S in the Ed Reed-clone Huff, or a slightly above average and Dan Morgan-ish Hawk?

[Bretsky]

I think more often then not, NFL defenses are lead by a S not lb. Brain Dawkins in Philledephia, Sharper in Minnesota, Roy Williams in Dallas, and last year Ed Reed with the Ray Lewis-less Ravens. Those teams have top defesnes without having a All Pro LB.

You can argue that LBs like Urlacher and Lewis are capable of carrying their teams but many experts have said that Hawk is not in their league. Would you rather have a protential all-pro S in the Ed Reed-clone Huff, or a slightly above average and Dan Morgan-ish Hawk?

There is where we differ; I don't think Huff will be nearly as good as Ed Reed and I do think Hawk will be very comparable to Urlacher.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think more often then not, NFL defenses are lead by a S not lb. Brain Dawkins in Philledephia, Sharper in Minnesota, Roy Williams in Dallas, and last year Ed Reed with the Ray Lewis-less Ravens. Those teams have top defesnes without having a All Pro LB.

You can argue that LBs like Urlacher and Lewis are capable of carrying their teams but many experts have said that Hawk is not in their league. Would you rather have a protential all-pro S in the Ed Reed-clone Huff, or a slightly above average and Dan Morgan-ish Hawk?

There is where we differ; I don't think Huff will be nearly as good as Ed Reed and I do think Hawk will be very comparable to Urlacher.

I guess time will prove one of us right.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.

To compare Edwards to Huff is like comparing Bush to Ki-Jana Carter. Huff is better than Edwards. Better in coverage, better tackling, better overall. Ed Reed is a better comparison.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You asked how many players come out with the ability to play corner or safety. Plenty of players do. They all look like future All-Pros at this point. Jason Allen is another CB/S hybrid from this draft. That usually means they are tweeners. Huff will be a safety on the pro level.