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  • #16
    Re: ND72 Mock Draft

    Good stab, ND72. I'll take my first shot at a mock draft.

    1. Houston Texans – RB Reggie Bush, USC
    2. New Orleans Saints – DE Mario Williams, NC State
    3. Tennessee Titans – QB Vince Young, Texas
    4. New York Jets – QB Matt Leinart, USC
    5. Green Bay Packers – LB AJ Hawk, LB Ohio State
    6. San Francisco 49ers – TE Vernon Davis, Maryland
    7. Oakland Raiders – S Michael Huff, Texas
    8. Buffalo Bills – OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
    9. Detroit Lions – DT Brodrick Bunkley, Florida State
    10. Arizona Cardinals – QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
    11. St. Louis Rams – DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon
    12. Cleveland Browns – LB Ernie Sims, Florida State
    13. Baltimore Ravens – OT Winston Justice, USC
    14. Philadelphia Eagles – WR Chad Jackson, Florida
    15. Denver Broncos – WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State
    16. Miami Dolphins – S Donte Whitner, Ohio State
    17. Minnesota Vikings – LB Chad Greenway, Iowa
    18. Dallas Cowboys – DE/LB Kamerion Wimbley, Florida State
    19. San Diego Chargers – CB Tye Hill, Clemson
    20. Kansas City Chiefs – CB Jonathan Joseph, South Carolina
    21. New England Patriots – RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis
    22. Denver Broncos – RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota
    23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – CB Jimmy Williams, Virginia Tech
    24. Cincinnati Bengals – DT Claude Wroten, LSU
    25. New York Giants – LB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State
    26. Chicago Bears – WR Sinorice Moss, Miami (Fla)
    27. Carolina Panthers – LB DeMeco Ryans, Alabama
    28. Jacksonville Jaguars – DE/LB Manny Lawson, North Carolina State
    29. New York Jets – RB LenDale White, USC
    30. Indianapolis Colts – CB Antonio Cromartie, Florida State
    31. Seattle Seahawks – C Nick Mangold, Ohio State
    32. Pittsburgh Steelers – S/CB Jason Allen, Tennessee
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #17
      Re: ND72 Mock Draft

      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
      1. Houston Texans – RB Reggie Bush, USC
      2. New Orleans Saints – DE Mario Williams, NC State
      3. Tennessee Titans – QB Vince Young, Texas
      4. New York Jets – QB Matt Leinart, USC
      5. Green Bay Packers – LB AJ Hawk, LB Ohio State
      I think you're right. And coincidentally, those are the players, in that order, that I most wish would fall to #5.

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      • #18
        Never saw Hawk being 'invisible'. Just a great player.
        Saw several games in which both Williams & Huff WERE invisible.
        Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Masterblaster
          Never saw Hawk being 'invisible'. Just a great player.
          Saw several games in which both Williams & Huff WERE invisible.
          I agree; HAWK IS THE GUY. Best and most consistent defensive player in college football last year, hands down.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
              Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.
              That's a crappy stat Tank. I was at that game in the slushy rain. How many tackles did Hawk have ? I'd bet you'd have to look it up so again, that stat doesn't mean a lick as there is a lot more to a full game's running yardage given up that one player. He's in nearly every play, and he's a hell of a lot more consistent than Huff and makes a lot more big plays.
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.
                That's a crappy stat Tank. I was at that game in the slushy rain. How many tackles did Hawk have ? I'd bet you'd have to look it up so again, that stat doesn't mean a lick as there is a lot more to a full game's running yardage given up that one player. He's in nearly every play, and he's a hell of a lot more consistent than Huff and makes a lot more big plays.
                How many DBs in the NFL can play both CB and S in the prime of their careers? Most, if not all, pro bowl safeties cant cover like an all pro CB and most, if not all, CBs cant tackle like an all pro S. Michael Huff can make the pro bowl at any of the two position, although he's best suited for S so that his talent would be utilizes to its max.

                Hawk is just a linebacker. Huff is a CB/S/KR/PR

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                  Broker Stanly ran for almost 130 yds against a Hawk-led OSU sqad. Broker Stanly. That speaks volumes. Hawk is not as good as people thinks he is.
                  That's a crappy stat Tank. I was at that game in the slushy rain. How many tackles did Hawk have ? I'd bet you'd have to look it up so again, that stat doesn't mean a lick as there is a lot more to a full game's running yardage given up that one player. He's in nearly every play, and he's a hell of a lot more consistent than Huff and makes a lot more big plays.
                  How many DBs in the NFL can play both CB and S in the prime of their careers? Most, if not all, pro bowl safeties cant cover like an all pro CB and most, if not all, CBs cant tackle like an all pro S. Michael Huff can make the pro bowl at any of the two position, although he's best suited for S so that his talent would be utilizes to its max.

                  Hawk is just a linebacker. Huff is a CB/S/KR/PR
                  AND an inconsistent one. And I don't buy that Huff can play either position and excel. You said yourself you've seen him play about two games. I've witnessed many more. He's dang good, but your reading too much Huff hype on thet Net. And we have a guy in GB that can play two positions in Nick Collins. Sure we could use Huff, but Hawk is the better player. Now if they trade to 8-10, and Davis and Hawk are gone then Huff is the guy.

                  Positions aside, Hawk is just a better football player than Huff.
                  Smash Mouth
                  Vocal Leader
                  Intense

                  He's the attitude we need leading that defense.
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #24
                    double post

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                      I think more often then not, NFL defenses are lead by a S not lb. Brain Dawkins in Philledephia, Sharper in Minnesota, Roy Williams in Dallas, and last year Ed Reed with the Ray Lewis-less Ravens. Those teams have top defesnes without having a All Pro LB.

                      You can argue that LBs like Urlacher and Lewis are capable of carrying their teams but many experts have said that Hawk is not in their league. Would you rather have a protential all-pro S in the Ed Reed-clone Huff, or a slightly above average and Dan Morgan-ish Hawk?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                        I think more often then not, NFL defenses are lead by a S not lb. Brain Dawkins in Philledephia, Sharper in Minnesota, Roy Williams in Dallas, and last year Ed Reed with the Ray Lewis-less Ravens. Those teams have top defesnes without having a All Pro LB.

                        You can argue that LBs like Urlacher and Lewis are capable of carrying their teams but many experts have said that Hawk is not in their league. Would you rather have a protential all-pro S in the Ed Reed-clone Huff, or a slightly above average and Dan Morgan-ish Hawk?
                        There is where we differ; I don't think Huff will be nearly as good as Ed Reed and I do think Hawk will be very comparable to Urlacher.
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                          I think more often then not, NFL defenses are lead by a S not lb. Brain Dawkins in Philledephia, Sharper in Minnesota, Roy Williams in Dallas, and last year Ed Reed with the Ray Lewis-less Ravens. Those teams have top defesnes without having a All Pro LB.

                          You can argue that LBs like Urlacher and Lewis are capable of carrying their teams but many experts have said that Hawk is not in their league. Would you rather have a protential all-pro S in the Ed Reed-clone Huff, or a slightly above average and Dan Morgan-ish Hawk?
                          There is where we differ; I don't think Huff will be nearly as good as Ed Reed and I do think Hawk will be very comparable to Urlacher.
                          I guess time will prove one of us right.

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                          • #28
                            Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.
                              To compare Edwards to Huff is like comparing Bush to Ki-Jana Carter. Huff is better than Edwards. Better in coverage, better tackling, better overall. Ed Reed is a better comparison.

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                              • #30
                                You asked how many players come out with the ability to play corner or safety. Plenty of players do. They all look like future All-Pros at this point. Jason Allen is another CB/S hybrid from this draft. That usually means they are tweeners. Huff will be a safety on the pro level.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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