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  • #46
    Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    As I said, the conversation about Clay seldom ends well. I'm not getting into it again, but he's a great rusher of the passer. I disagree that he justified his salary until they moved him inside part time. Let's just leave it alone.
    I agree, sort of. because they kept throwing him at the LT, his usefulness was diminished. That was on the coaches. Clay's best attribute is that very quick burst speed, so it helps to create mismatches for him/ line him up in gaps, etc.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      Matthews now causes more confusion than ever before. The defense was better when they flipped him between right and left for a while; now he can show up anywhere.

      With Matthews in the middle, he has an impact to some extent on almost every running play, he is that fast and that good. Even if he is not involved in the tackle, he takes up blockers. He attracts attention and takes it away from others.

      Raji being back makes the DL rotation better.
      Raji having found the fountain of youth, and playing like he did in 2010 makes it even better.

      Jayrone Elliot has simple made plays, even big plays. The kinds of plays that influence outcomes. I don't know if he can continue to do it, but so far it has made a difference.

      Nick Perry being healthy (apparently) has made an effect. He has made at least one play of note in every game, even with relatively limited snaps.

      Pass defense from middle linebackers through the first 4 games is much, much better than it was last year.

      DBs are playing well, with no drop off from last year. The rookies so far have not played like rookies.

      Perhaps overlooked, but a factor nonetheless: The offense has been more methodical, with fewer long strikes. This keeps the defense off the field, keeps them rested and requires them to play less.
      I'd add having several D linemen to rotate in and out of their keeping them fresh has helped our defense too.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
        I agree, sort of. because they kept throwing him at the LT, his usefulness was diminished. That was on the coaches. Clay's best attribute is that very quick burst speed, so it helps to create mismatches for him/ line him up in gaps, etc.
        Thanks, sort of. He is an absolute nightmare for offenses with how he is being used now.

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        • #49
          Watching the Monday night countdown, they showed the Pack allowing 5 yds per rushing attempt, 2nd most in the league. Is that an improvement from last year?

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          • #50
            Cue wist in 3...2...1...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by deake View Post
              Watching the Monday night countdown, they showed the Pack allowing 5 yds per rushing attempt, 2nd most in the league. Is that an improvement from last year?
              Statistically no. But except for the 1st half against the Bears, they've been able to stop the run when they had to. Rams had a lot of rushing yards yesterday after falling behind by 2 scores, probably in an attempt to keep Nick Foles alive. So, they got yards, but not points. Packers have given up about 200 yards rushing to opposing QB's. I think they've missed Burnett there. Also, Packers have faced Matt Forte, Marshawn Lynch, Jamaal Charles, and Gurley, I'll bet few if any teams have faced the caliber of RB's they've faced.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #52
                Originally posted by deake View Post
                Watching the Monday night countdown, they showed the Pack allowing 5 yds per rushing attempt, 2nd most in the league. Is that an improvement from last year?
                Probably not. The D got gassed in the second half with the O playing poorly. That said still 5th in total yardage and 2nd scoring defense is a big improvement.
                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                -Tim Harmston

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                • #53
                  Gurley's 55 yard run boosted his average significantly. Fisher ran him like he used to run Eddie George...30 carries, yikes. They had to, Foles was getting killed and not playing well because of it.
                  Personally, I'm happy they kept Gurley out of the end zone. points >>> yards.

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                  • #54
                    Well this week we get to find out if the Pack’s pass defense has improved as we face our first upper echelon QB. Now of course if the Bolts OL was healthy it would be a better test.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by deake View Post
                      Well this week we get to find out if the Pack’s pass defense has improved as we face our first upper echelon QB. Now of course if the Bolts OL was healthy it would be a better test.
                      You could say the same thing about the health of our defense with Boyd, Barrington, Perry, Burnett, Richardson, maybe Raji being out. As far as I know, none of their OL have been ruled out. Two are out with a concussion, so they could be back this week. The other two had ankle injuries and could play this week.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by deake View Post
                        Well this week we get to find out if the Pack’s pass defense has improved as we face our first upper echelon QB. Now of course if the Bolts OL was healthy it would be a better test.
                        Was at the game, looks like the D has a little work to do yet. Play after play Allen had seperation from Sam. It reminded me of the Bears game.

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                        • #57
                          Did wist show up in the game day thread?
                          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                          • #58
                            No, now I am really worried about him.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by deake View Post
                              Was at the game, looks like the D has a little work to do yet. Play after play Allen had seperation from Sam. It reminded me of the Bears game.
                              Shields was on Floyd most of the time. The Chargers kept getting Allen matched up on the other corners.
                              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                                Shields was on Floyd most of the time. The Chargers kept getting Allen matched up on the other corners.
                                According to McGinn, Allen was beating Shields too.

                                http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/333923701.html

                                Willowy and precise, Allen caught five for 76 against Sam Shields and four for 40 against Damarious Randall. Just one of the passes thrown to him wasn't complete.

                                "He's a dynamic guy and he runs really good routes," Packers defensive back Micah Hyde said. "We went with a lot of man-up against him. We kind of told ourselves that we had good enough DB's and were going to match up against him.

                                "We played it straight. They got the best of us."
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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