Bostickler Trophy

[Patler]

Its a zone. He just needs to be back in his zone. You have to make it a tough throw over you. Or, if the article describes the route accurately, the other short zone is missing after Fitzgerald crosses the field.

Yup. If Peppers stayed back, its doubtfully that Palmer would have even tried the across the field throw like that, because underthrown just a bit, Peppers intercepts it. As it was, it was almost a no-risk throw for Palmer, either harmlessly short, completed or overthrown and out of bounds. At worst for the Packers, if Peppers stayed back he might have been able to catch Fitzgerald on his first or second cutback.

[Harlan Huckleby]

A scapegoat is desperately needed to get past this painful loss. I can see there'll be no good choices, even if Pepper and Shields are a bit goat-like.

The committee is declaring a winner out of necessity and petty spite. It is a lifetime achievement award this time. Let the healing begin.

[Harlan Huckleby]

[mraynrand]

^^^^ LOL

[esoxx]

^^^^
LOL

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd say McGinn could be persuaded to pin the tail on Sammy.

On Fitzgerald's 75-yard killer, Sam Shields (66) made a pathetic attempt at the tackle and Morgan Burnett (66) got stiff-armed into the turf. Shields had a chance to win the game but dropped a terrible pass by Palmer at the Green Bay 3. He also dropped another interception. Following a month hiatus (concussion), Shields covered well with his fresh legs.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-packers-vs-arizona-cardinals-b99651967z1-365609081.html

[pbmax]

Capers said Randall should have followed Fitz across the field.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Capers said Randall should have followed Fitz across the field.

pb, I got a question for you and your expertise...Assuming Pack was playing zone on that play, why? Why were they not playing man?

[pbmax]

If they were playing zone, there is no reason. Unless there is a rule about your zone being empty or last receiver to a side, etc.

My suspicion is that they were in some kinda matchup deal. Start in zone (with Peppers dropping) and find the first guy in your area. Then trail him.

I give Dom credit for this. For the first time in forever, I saw multiple coverages on the field. I saw them roll coverage after the snap.* That's a nice change of pace and is necessary for keeping great QBs from murdering you like Manning did in Week 6. Dom did say that Palmer had some of the blitzes figured out in the second half, so i would love to see them align in one pressure and bring the opposite. But very hard to call on the road.


*Easiest to see on Ha-Ha's INT versus Fitz and Randall. if you get the sideline view, you can see the Packers roll the entire coverage to their left. Was pretty nifty.

[mraynrand]

^^^ Dom mixed it up and at the end of regulation his defense gave up 20 to AZ. If I could have guaranteed that before the game began, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. It was a great effort until the OT.

But I said before the game that the defense needed to score to win the game. Given what happened three weeks prior, the offensive improvement was astonishing, but not good enough. They needed something else, and that something else was Shields making the INT and putting them in scoring range. Oh well.

[Maxie the Taxi]

If they were playing zone, there is no reason. Unless there is a rule about your zone being empty or last receiver to a side, etc.

My suspicion is that they were in some kinda matchup deal. Start in zone (with Peppers dropping) and find the first guy in your area. Then trail him.

I give Dom credit for this. For the first time in forever, I saw multiple coverages on the field. I saw them roll coverage after the snap.* That's a nice change of pace and is necessary for keeping great QBs from murdering you like Manning did in Week 6. Dom did say that Palmer had some of the blitzes figured out in the second half, so i would love to see them align in one pressure and bring the opposite. But very hard to call on the road.


*Easiest to see on Ha-Ha's INT versus Fitz and Randall. if you get the sideline view, you can see the Packers roll the entire coverage to their left. Was pretty nifty.

Now could you restate that in English? LOL. What happened to the old school concept of saying: "You take Fitz, I'll cover the tall guy and Clay, you cover the RB?"

[mraynrand]

What happened to the old school concept of saying: "You take Fitz, I'll cover the tall guy and Clay, you cover the RB?"

that would be man coverage. If that's all you play, a team like AZ can easily defeat it.

[Maxie the Taxi]

^^^ Dom mixed it up and at the end of regulation his defense gave up 20 to AZ. If I could have guaranteed that before the game began, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. It was a great effort until the OT.

But I said before the game that the defense needed to score to win the game. Given what happened three weeks prior, the offensive improvement was astonishing, but not good enough. They needed something else, and that something else was Shields making the INT and putting them in scoring range. Oh well.

Our the deflection in the end zone going to our guy instead of theirs for a TD.

[mraynrand]

Our the deflection in the end zone going to our guy instead of theirs for a TD.

That would have worked too. Harder to get the INT (or the reception) when you are being interfered with.

[Maxie the Taxi]

that would be man coverage. If that's all you play, a team like AZ can easily defeat it.

Maybe we need better men.