More Banjo: Week10 vs Lions

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Green Bay Packers @packers 16m16 minutes ago
McCarthy: Defense played well. Gave our offense opportunities. Definitely was pressure in passing game & run defense looked solid. #DETvsGB

yeah, that one or two pressures we got sure were nice

maybe one day we'll get a sack or another knockdown

[pbmax]

Actually no, no they are not. Not during most of McCarthy's tenure. More than half have been fairly easy, especially when other teams are having down years. This is a cop-out statement.

Its a press conference. He is not going to tell you what he is actually thinking.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Arod: 35 for 61, 83.6 QB rating, 333 yds; 2 TD's and NO interceptions!

Starks lead rusher with 42 yds in 15 carries.

Adams: 21 targets, 10 rec.; 79 yds; NO td's.

Cobb: 10 targets, 5 rec. 53 yds; NO td's.

Jones: 2 targets, NO rec.

AND THESE THREE ARE OUR TOP, STARTING RECEIVERS.

Pathetic.

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Arod: 35 for 61, 83.6 QB rating, 333 yds; 2 TD's and NO interceptions!

Starks lead rusher with 42 yds in 15 carries.

Adams: 21 targets, 10 rec.; 79 yds; NO td's.

Cobb: 10 targets, 5 rec. 53 yds; NO td's.

Jones: 2 targets, NO rec.

AND THESE THREE ARE OUR TOP, STARTING RECEIVERS.

Pathetic.

i'm gonna go ahead and say that detroit was the 3rd worst defense against the run coming into this game averaging 134 yards per game and 14 TD's given up on the season

[Maxie the Taxi]

Its a press conference. He is not going to tell you what he is actually thinking.

Understood. But if you read between the lines, this was different. Really, really, really was blowing smoke to the point I think he actually believed some it. I'd rather see a coach give a press conference like Rex Ryan. If Stubby is going full BS, why have a press conference? In that case, GB should hire Bagdad Bob.

[denverYooper]

Nice page taken out of the Belichick playbook by Detroit. Just keep nudging and bumping and pulling. Interfere on every play, and they can't call it all.

And for those tempted, it was not the reason the Packers lost.

Been that way since the Denver game at least. Broncos and Panthers did the same thing.

Pack's going to have to learn to deal with it.

[Carolina_Packer]

Actually no, no they are not. Not during most of McCarthy's tenure. More than half have been fairly easy, especially when other teams are having down years. This is a cop-out statement.

I guess as a coach you probably want to take the high road when faced with a bad situation. The Packers have had great success at home and especially in the division, save for 2013 when Rodgers was out. If you don't give the other team some credit, it makes you look bad. I think he knows he had the better team, certainly the better QB, and is now losing at home to a struggling Lions team. Well, it can only go up from here.

I say short-term, don't worry about anyone's feelings. If McCarthy needs to assert himself more into the game-planning, and even play calling, by all means. Strategy though, only takes you so far. They need rhythm and execution of the plays being called, but they also need to be a lot less predictable to defend. The coverage windows are so tight right now. Once again, I think they have lost their balance, and need to find the run game again. Why revert now? They have to get teams to respect a run game again. Starks was good against San Diego. I know Denver and Carolina were road games and they have tough defenses, but there should have been way more running game today. The game was never completely out of reach in terms of number of scores. To abandon the run game, save for the drives where they needed to hurry up was a mistake.

[denverYooper]

Starks is fat.

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see this is what i'm saying

its one thing if he doesn't bring up the problems, but then fixes the problems.

he doesn't bring up the problems, says he doesn't see the problems, and then doesn't fix the problem

it that case, to me, he looks like he's completely fucked in the head

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Starks is fat.

and a fumbler

[denverYooper]

Of course Abbrederis comes in, gets hot, and gets injured.

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Of course Abbrederis comes in, gets hot, and gets injured.

you didn't need a crystal ball to see that one coming

[mraynrand]

Been that way since the Denver game at least. Broncos and Panthers did the same thing.

Pack's going to have to learn to deal with it.

The bumping was more pronounced in this game. But it doesn't matter - teams have figured the Packers out: you can run man coverage, pressure Rodgers and the offense is finished. The main O problems are:
1) The O-line - they just can't block right now. The Tackles surrender three steps on every pass-pro - the play is lost even before the snap, due to their degraded, unconfident technique. They can't run block either. Guys are routinely missing blocks - many times two or three on each play. All too common look of the O-line - is guys standing around looking at the RB or Rodgers getting off the ground after they allowed their man to scoot into the backfield. Awful stuff.
2) Receivers - they cannot get open against man coverage - many times with no holding, etc.
3) Because of (1) and (2) Rodgers has become skittish and unconfident. And he is getting beat up and injured.
4) Lacy is fat
5) Starks is limited as a runner
6) TE is non-existent
7) Check-down is non-existent
8) Packer O is limited. Lining up the same way on too many plays.

[Maxie the Taxi]

The bumping was more pronounced in this game. But it doesn't matter - teams have figured the Packers out: you can run man coverage, pressure Rodgers and the offense is finished. The main O problems are:
1) The O-line - they just can't block right now. The Tackles surrender three steps on every pass-pro - the play is lost even before the snap, due to their degraded, unconfident technique. They can't run block either. Guys are routinely missing blocks - many times two or three on each play. All too common look of the O-line - is guys standing around looking at the RB or Rodgers getting off the ground after they allowed their man to scoot into the backfield. Awful stuff.
2) Receivers - they cannot get open against man coverage - many times with no holding, etc.
3) Because of (1) and (2) Rodgers has become skittish and unconfident. And he is getting beat up and injured.
4) Lacy is fat
5) Starks is limited as a runner
6) TE is non-existent
7) Check-down is non-existent
8) Packer O is limited. Lining up the same way on too many plays.

You know it. I know it. pb knows it. We all know it. Question: Does Stubby know it? More important question: Does Stubby know what to do about it? Most important question: Will Stubby do something about it???

[pbmax]

Understood. But if you read between the lines, this was different. Really, really, really was blowing smoke to the point I think he actually believed some it. I'd rather see a coach give a press conference like Rex Ryan. If Stubby is going full BS, why have a press conference? In that case, GB should hire Bagdad Bob.

I know what you are trying to say, but Rex Ryan is the exact coach I want to avoid. He's no better than Ray Rhodes. Lots of bluster and smoke and then ever increasing disappointing results.