No more excuses for Aaron.

[Striker]

Seems to be less getting beat physically, more to do with communication issues/blown assignments for the line.

[Patler]

Seems to be less getting beat physically, more to do with communication issues/blown assignments for the line.

and that makes no sense for a line that has been together for a year+, parts of it for much longer than that. Why now all of a sudden? Have they tried to change something that isn't working?

Maybe we can blame it all on the new OL assistant?
Ya, that's it! It's his fault!
Fire his ass!

[pbmax]

Seems to be less getting beat physically, more to do with communication issues/blown assignments for the line.

Some of their small scale adjustments have come back to bite them. Someone mentioned elsewhere that Rodgers told the O line to leave the middle unblocked and he was going to roll out right. That probably has worked like a charm for years. But with Bulaga retreating faster than ever, he wasn't able to move to his right as he normally would.

[wpony]

I as going to try and stay away from the site today and I should have but I didnt and read this thread and cant believe what I am reading call Chicago you few whiners out there I know they would be glad to trade cutler for him have you forgot how long he held the record for highest qb ranking in a row I mean come on get serious yes something is wrong right now they will get it fixed but until then dont bite the hand that will be leading your team to many more wins division tittles and even sb ? but for the know it alls I bet if you really wanted to trade him and go with our back ups you would have teams lining up to get him.
I bet you all remember how well that went the last time Arod got hurt YA RIGHT any way tear me .apart all you want but wake the hell up he is our leader .

[mraynrand]

Fucking faggot. (And don't be fooled, Rodgers is as queer as a two dollar bill)

The likeness is frightening

[George Cumby]

As disturbed as I am by the loss today I am profoundly disturbed by how this losing attitude, this lack of edge is affecting all of you.

The answer is painfully clear and I am aghast that none of you has identified it:

Olivia Munn.

[mraynrand]

As disturbed as I am by the loss today I am profoundly disturbed by how this losing attitude, this lack of edge is affecting all of you.

The answer is painfully clear and I am aghast that none of you has identified it:

Olivia Munn.

JimX and Red IDed Yoko in another thread. The muse has soured and ruined the band.

[George Cumby]

Time for her to go. After all, Rodgers is apparently a faggot.

[Patler]

The likeness is frightening

Did I see a flash of Ellen Degenerate in there?

[Smidgeon]

and that makes no sense for a line that has been together for a year+, parts of it for much longer than that. Why now all of a sudden? Have they tried to change something that isn't working?

Maybe we can blame it all on the new OL assistant?
Ya, that's it! It's his fault!
Fire his ass!

It's whatever is bothering Lacy. Before Lacy, the line was still a tire fire. Lacy was drafted, and the defenses had to respect that. Lacy (for whatever reason) fell off this year. The O Line followed. It is now back where it was pre-Lacy.

[SkinBasket]

It wasn't the officiating, it was the flat, lackluster play by the offense.

I've always thought this was bullshit. Yes, the offense played poorly. Part of that was 24 mainly, and the Lion DBs in general, being allowed to pull, grab, and armbar at will, the entire game. That was a shit performance by the officiating crew and it directly affected the integrity of the game. First time since SEA replacement refs that I felt officiating was that bad that it made the game not worth watching.

[pbmax]

It was also the polar opposite of the way the Cardinals/Seahawks game was called. The refs in the late game didn't like calling DPI (though there was at least one) according to numbers Pete Carroll had, but they led the league in illegal contact and defensive holding.

Legion of Gloom drew a LOT of flags. Two of the Cardinal drives were basically penalty shots.

Just as Baseball has gotten its umpire the game your way problem under control, the NFL has 12 different sets of rules each week.

[mraynrand]

I've always thought this was bullshit. Yes, the offense played poorly. Part of that was 24 mainly, and the Lion DBs in general, being allowed to pull, grab, and armbar at will, the entire game. That was a shit performance by the officiating crew and it directly affected the integrity of the game. First time since SEA replacement refs that I felt officiating was that bad that it made the game not worth watching.

It's one of those things where you never know what would have happened, but you know it affected the game. Kudos to Detroit for gaming the system - sometimes cheaters prosper...

[yetisnowman]

the o-line was not fine today

the couple of plays were he had time to throw and missed were anomalies

Those "anomalies" come up quite a bit when it matters most. 2009 Missing Jennings in OT against AZ for a game winner? How bout 2 years later vs NY in the playoffs when he had Greg wide open for an easy pitch and catch TD? How about vs Seattle last year, or Denver this year, or Carolina last week with the game on the line? The guy consistently shrivels up in big moments and chokes. If you don't see that you are in denial. Not to mention he has a hand in what this team does from a schematic standpoint, the coaching staff and offense plays through him. He is as much to blame as anyone for this debacle.

[mraynrand]

Those "anomalies" come up quite a bit when it matters most. 2009 Missing Jennings in OT against AZ for a game winner? How bout 2 years later vs NY in the playoffs when he had Greg wide open for an easy pitch and catch TD? How about vs Seattle last year, or Denver this year, or Carolina last week with the game on the line? The guy consistently shrivels up in big moments and chokes. If you don't see that you are in denial. Not to mention he has a hand in what this team does from a schematic standpoint, the coaching staff and offense plays through him. He is as much to blame as anyone for this debacle.

Following your thorough review of all NFL quarterbacks over the past three decades, where would you rank Rodgers in big moment choke percentage? And how much of that is based on his own performance that led him to those big moments that he could then proceed to choke away. In other words, there are a lot of QBs who have choked very few times in big games simply because they weren't talented enough to get their teams to such games.
Next, how fair are you in evaluating who is at fault for missed connections? Seems I recall there were blocking issues and other issues in some of the missed connections in the Giant's game.
Finally, how often and how carefully do you acknowledge the opposite - the times that only Rodger's big game performances led to big game victories?

In summary, I think you have an extremely skewed view. The only thing I agree with you on is this, with modification: "He is also to blame for this debacle." How did you calculate your percent blame?