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  • #31
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    I don't have ESPN Insider so I can pull quotes or the pics, but here is a look at how the receivers aren't getting open against press man.

    Matt Bowen ‏@MattBowen41 24m24 minutes ago
    #Packers: Rodgers isn't broken--he just needs some help. 3rd & 17...Press-Man? @ESPNInsider: http://es.pn/1HZiJ7U



    Need to have short slants to beat press coverage and then get YAC
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      I don't have ESPN Insider so I can pull quotes or the pics, but here is a look at how the receivers aren't getting open against press man.

      Matt Bowen ‏@MattBowen41 24m24 minutes ago
      #Packers: Rodgers isn't broken--he just needs some help. 3rd & 17...Press-Man? @ESPNInsider: http://es.pn/1HZiJ7U


      Ahhh...remember the good old days when the Packers would feast on single high safety. But that's when a Packer receiver could beat press man coverage, and the O-line could block long enough for a double move. *SIGH*
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #33
        Short story.....defenses don't respect the Packer WR's and TE's. Defenses aren't doing much disguising, but are lining up and daring the skill position players to beat them, which they aren't. Packers aren't helping the situation by not using bunch formations or pre-snap movement.

        Because they don't fear getting beat deep, defenses are playing Rodgers single high and shutting down the run game. With the run game shut down, the offense has been playing behind the sticks way too often. Rodgers' technique has begun to slip the past few weeks as well.

        Fixing the issue......
        So why is Rodgers struggling? I do believe there is a lack of trust, or frustration, building between Rodgers and his wide receivers. You can see it in the way Rodgers gets impatient as routes develop. He pulls his eyes off his target too quickly and begins to scan the field instead of waiting for that throwing window to appear.
        This three-game skid in Green Bay reminds me of the Packers' rough start to the 2014 season when the offense was brought into question again. The static formations, lack of creativity -- same stuff, different season. (The one difference? Defenses were using more two-man coverages to lock down wide receivers last year.)

        It's hard to watch their past three games' tapes and not be concerned with the Packers' offense. But I also believe that Rodgers can fix the mechanical issues. He's a true pro. Does that mean the Packers can continue to line up in basic sets and just toss the ball around? Of course not. Green Bay has to do some serious self-scouting this week with the Vikings up next on the schedule. Mike Zimmer's defense is no joke, and the Vikings have the talent in the secondary to challenge these Packers wide receivers.

        Creating an offensive game plan that is far less dependent on simple iso routes, using some formation variety and generating throwing windows for the quarterback is a must here. That gives the Packers more flexibility in the call sheet, while setting up opportunities to run the ball versus the six-man boxes they can attack.
        Go PACK

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
          I won't be able to watch the game as I'll be hunting, but I'll have one ear bud in and be listening.
          The game starts at 4:25pm. Do you hunt in the dark?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by esoxx View Post
            The game starts at 4:25pm. Do you hunt in the dark?
            he just probably wants to be as accurate as Rodgers. No excuses.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #36
              Okay, I came within one play of being right about the Packers/Lions game last week. I predicted a narrow, close, ugly game with the Packers coming out, barely, on top.

              This week I see the Packers playing much better, and I predict a very close game, a dogfight. I don't know if they'll win or not, but there will be much better play this week.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #37
                One thing the crowding the LOS with press coverage explanation misses is that despite no Nelson and a lot of short throws early in the season, I still see a lot of Cover 2 with no fear of the running game.

                Lacy and Starks have not exactly feasted on 6 or 7 in the box numbers.

                So I think its safe to say the Packers offense is not taking advantage of ANY opportunity and therefore cannot force the defense into a bad choice. They can play preferred scheme based on personnel and down and distance at their discretion.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                  The game starts at 4:25pm. Do you hunt in the dark?
                  DNR personnel are fitting bucks with high-visibility sweaters to reduce accidental shootings AND to keep the herd warm. Allows limited dusk/night hunting.

                  However at dawn, it always looks like a road crew at work on the side of county highways.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #39
                    We are going to get crushed this week in Minneapolis. I will have to suffer through DBag Vikes Fans trolling me all week and listening to KFAN and PA just giggle at the downfall of AR and our now pathetic passing attack.
                    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                      We are going to get crushed this week in Minneapolis. I will have to suffer through DBag Vikes Fans trolling me all week and listening to KFAN and PA just giggle at the downfall of AR and our now pathetic passing attack.


                      Hey remember in the offseason, when I said the Vikes and Bridgewater were a team on the rise and would be our stiffest competition moving forward? And you mocked me saying, "I just realized you don't watch football." Now you are automatically conceding a Packer defeat? Good times.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                        Hey remember in the offseason, when I said the Vikes and Bridgewater were a team on the rise and would be our stiffest competition moving forward? And you mocked me saying, "I just realized you don't watch football." Now you are automatically conceding a Packer defeat? Good times.
                        Bridgewater is still pretty bad, they are wining on defense and that is not a jump I saw them making. I was wrong, you were right, You good looking, I am unattractive.
                        Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                          We are going to get crushed this week in Minneapolis. I will have to suffer through DBag Vikes Fans trolling me all week and listening to KFAN and PA just giggle at the downfall of AR and our now pathetic passing attack.
                          I find it hard to believe anyone would troll a personable fellow like yourself.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                            The game starts at 4:25pm. Do you hunt in the dark?
                            I hunt until dark, by the time we get back to the truck, gear stowed then back to the house the game will be in the 3rd quarter or later.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                              I find it hard to believe anyone would troll a personable fellow like yourself.
                              Here at the Rat we have a strict rule against inter-poster dating. In fact, fraternization of any sort is frowned upon.

                              (Not a bad line, tho.)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                                I hunt until dark, by the time we get back to the truck, gear stowed then back to the house the game will be in the 3rd quarter or later.
                                You might want to keep your finger off the trigger whenever the Packers are on offense, just in case.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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