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[mraynrand]

It has also been said that the Jim Ringo trade a year later grew out of that game because Lombardi was very impressed by the play of Lee Roy Caffey in that game, and demanded that the Eagles give up Caffey for Ringo.

I love the way this is phrased. This is the famous Ringo trade, possibly embellished. I remember this legend well from my youth. It was a favorite story of my grandfathers.' Wiki:

The details of Ringo's trade have been the subject of speculation. For years it was said that following the 1963 season, Ringo showed up in Lombardi's office, with an agent in tow, looking to negotiate a raise. Lombardi, according to this account, was so angered that he excused himself for five minutes only to return and announce that he had traded Ringo to the Eagles. Over the years it has been suggested that that story is more fiction than fact. In reality, Lombardi had probably been negotiating a trade for some time. The Packers also traded fullback Earl Gros and received in return linebacker Lee Roy Caffey and a first-round draft pick that they would eventually use to select halfback-punter Donny Anderson. Still, the legend persists. Ringo, who played 126 consecutive games for the Packers from 1954-63, finished out his career with the Philadelphia Eagles, attending three more Pro Bowls before retiring after the 1967 season.

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its interesting to note that in the modern world where less and less fans are actually going to games, and find the at home or bar experience to be the better deal. the nfl insists on shipping games overseas instead of just growing the sport the way they grow it here in the US, on TV

basically, the nfl is greatly inconveniencing the teams and players, and pissing off their usual fan base with games that start early in the morning, when the proof out there shows the game woud be better spread by showing it on prime time TV

[mraynrand]

its interesting to note that in the modern world where less and less fans are actually going to games, and find the at home or bar experience to be the better deal. the nfl insists on shipping games overseas instead of just growing the sport the way they grow it here in the US, on TV

basically, the nfl is greatly inconveniencing the teams and players, and pissing off their usual fan base with games that start early in the morning, when the proof out there shows the game woud be better spread by showing it on prime time TV

Totally agree. You know, they could make game style changes that would greatly enhance the home viewing experience. For example, with technology and standard view screen cost and LCD/other projector costs plummeting, you could have multiple camera feeds and angles. So if as a fan, you wanted to project the fans and stadium on your walls, you could do it. For the aficionados, you could have all 22 feeds, individual player cams, iso cams, etc. in real time so people could focus on what they want to watch, just like being at the game.