Who is the backup to the backup at center?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Plus Rodgers can now punt if he gets frightened again.

Quick kick, quick kick.

[mraynrand]

Why? Because you can't line up over the longsnapper. He is "protected".



Snappers don't learn to block anymore.

Come, come, the long snapper played football back before he became a specialty freak. He can remember how to block. He certainly still remembers how to tackle - he tackles from time to time on coverage duties.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Snappers don't learn to block anymore.

They get 1-yard protection, but the snapper still blocks.

Jimminy Crickets!

[Rutnstrut]

I'm really warming up to the long snapper idea. How about this: have him long snap it to Rodgers 15 yards back, like a normal punt. Now the pass rush takes 2-3 seconds to get to Rodgers instead of 0.5 seconds. Even though Rodgers has to throw 10 more yards every pass play, the increased time in the pocket results in an overall huge advantage. Plus Rodgers can now punt if he gets frightened again.

Or, the long snapper could just line up ass towards the LOS and snap the ball to the WR's.

[mraynrand]

Or, the long snapper could just line up ass towards the LOS and snap the ball to the WR's.

Patler? Patler? Is this legal? I like the idea, but we don't want a penalty.

[pbmax]

They get 1-yard protection, but the snapper still blocks.

Jimminy Crickets!

On FGs and PATs, they often, quite literally, block no one anymore. Occasionally the pile spills back into them, but its a gap over, not head up. Same with punting.

Now they do tackle (a lot of LB long snappers because of this). However, if your center is tackling, things are going very wrong.

[smuggler]

I mean, he's 30+ lbs light so it'd be a huge disadvantage, but if you have to pick between a player that's never given a snap before and the LS, you'd take the LS hands down.

[Harlan Huckleby]

On FGs and PATs, they often, quite literally, block no one anymore.

Not true. Google "long snapping blocking" and you'll find many testimonials about how long snappers also have to be skilled in blocking.

http://www.specialteamservants.com/Special_Team_Servants/Blocking.html

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-1/25-Questions-and-Answers-with-49ers-Long-Snapper-Kyle-Nelson/b52f5c85-d484-4e5d-8e95-db996296cdb4

[Patler]

Come, come, the long snapper played football back before he became a specialty freak. He can remember how to block. He certainly still remembers how to tackle - he tackles from time to time on coverage duties.

a few years back, we debated on here why long snappers don't back up at another position. At the time, I looked into the backgrounds of lots of them. Many were specialists even in college, and played no other position. Some did, but many were TEs or LBs. Goode was an O-lineman in HS, but I believe only snapped in college. Clark Harris was drafted by the Packers mostly as a TE. JJ Jansen, as I recall from his days at ND, never even played HS football, but was messing around snapping in intramural football, was seen by a coach and was asked to work with the team because he showed natural ability at the long snap.

Yes, they tackle from time to time, what does that have to do with blocking?

My point was, they don't have to block like a typical O-lineman. They don't have to fire off the line, find someone and hit him. They don't have stand up, step back and pass protect. They don't typically have to deal with stunts by 300+ pounders. The don't face a 320 pound d-lineman lined up on their head or shoulder, ready to fire into them at the snap. They learn none of the typical things taught to an O-lineman. Any blocking they do (or even tackling for that matter) is considered a bonus.

[Cheesehead Craig]

They'd probably just bring in whomever the 3rd C was in training camp. Think his name was Fuckdoggle or something like that.

[Patler]

They'd probably just bring in whomever the 3rd C was in training camp. Think his name was Fuckdoggle or something like that.

Was that Bostick Fuckdoggle?

[Patler]

Garth Gerhart is on Cleveland's practice squad.

[Cleft Crusty]

Yes, they tackle from time to time, what does that have to do with blocking?

blocking and tackling, Coach Lombardi. Those are the basics of football. Oh well, I guess this is the modern era, but I sure remember learning how to block and tackle on my PS4 Madden game.

[Smidgeon]

This is my favoritest thread in a while. Quite humorous. Keep it up.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They don't typically have to deal with stunts by 300+ pounders. The don't face a 320 pound d-lineman lined up on their head or shoulder

It's a bad situation. Having a bigger guy who can't even reliably get a snap back to the QB is worse.