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    On the Hail Mary why would the Packers not have Jeff Janis in the game? Did he get hurt and I missed it? He's their biggest and fastest receiver, with the second best vertical leap among the receiver group. No offense to Abby, but I'd rather have Janis going for the Hail Mary over Abby. I'm not a big Janis ball washer. I think he's still too raw to contribute much (although I think he'll be solid one day), but it made little sense to me why he wasn't in the game.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

  • #2
    Quote of the night:

    Originally posted by JSO
    Asked about his recollections of being in such a close game like this, or on the losing end, McCarthy brought up Seattle.

    “I’ll just say this – at least our guy really caught the ball.”
    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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    • #3
      JSO article says they did not have the right personnel on the field for their hail mary play.
      I don't know what the logistics are for running a play when time is extended due to a penalty on the defense. Maybe they felt they had to stay with the players they had for the previous play.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Patler View Post
        JSO article says they did not have the right personnel on the field for their hail mary play.
        I don't know what the logistics are for running a play when time is extended due to a penalty on the defense. Maybe they felt they had to stay with the players they had for the previous play.
        Judging it by overall success rate, does anyone really ever have the right personnel on the field for a Hail Mary play?
        "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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        • #5
          I wanted to say he's unreliable and would probably droped it anyways........but they had Adams on the field so that argument goes to crap
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #6
            I have to take an awful shit this morning, but I feel like I will be more successful if I wait for total annihilation

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
              I have to take an awful shit this morning, but I feel like I will be more successful if I wait for total annihilation
              our nation's storyteller
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #8
                I think I have hit that magical point of no return

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                • #9
                  Did you see Janis on that fly pattern? He ran for like 10 yards with his arms in the air slowing down... I'd say he wasn't in there because he can't catch. My guess.

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                  • #10
                    Here's what strikes me as I watch the replay again...and again...and again this morning (somehow I don't get tired of it ) : I would think teams must have some sort of Hail Mary drill they practice on defense. The Lions had nobody in front of Richard R. They've got a whole bunch of guys occupying the same area behind him. All you need to do as a defense is to bat the ball down, or at least to be in the way of a clear view of the ball. So: Was it a blunder for the Lions not to have at least one defender (heck, you don't really need linebackers on a play like that; why not have Megatron in on defense to try and catch or deflect a high, looping pass) in front of anyone the Packers would have in the end zone? Is the way they had people set up really the way they practice this?
                    Not that I'm complaining.
                    Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                    Vince Lombardi

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Badgerinmaine View Post
                      Here's what strikes me as I watch the replay again...and again...and again this morning (somehow I don't get tired of it ) : I would think teams must have some sort of Hail Mary drill they practice on defense. The Lions had nobody in front of Richard R. They've got a whole bunch of guys occupying the same area behind him. All you need to do as a defense is to bat the ball down, or at least to be in the way of a clear view of the ball. So: Was it a blunder for the Lions not to have at least one defender (heck, you don't really need linebackers on a play like that; why not have Megatron in on defense to try and catch or deflect a high, looping pass) in front of anyone the Packers would have in the end zone? Is the way they had people set up really the way they practice this?
                      Not that I'm complaining.
                      Apparently the Lions were not anticipating a Hail Mary, thinking it was probably too far away for that. Several said they went with their personnel for defending the laterals type play like the previous one, thus, no Megatron.

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                      • #12
                        Yup. I just read an article that said Jim Caldwell was expecting a lateral play and not the Hail Mary. Without the 15 yards on the facemask call, it would have had to have been, like the previous play was.
                        Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                        Vince Lombardi

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                        • #13
                          Wrong personnel indeed for Detroit. I think they had 3 LBs in on that play and 5 DBs. One of the LBs is just hanging around midfield waiting for Rodgers to run apparently. There were only 6 Lions in the endzone with the 5 Packer WRs and 2 of those Lions were LBs with no chance to outjump anyone. Given it was only a 3 man rush I don't know where the other Lions player was.

                          Let's hear it for their DC being an idiot.
                          All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                          • #14
                            Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                            Vince Lombardi

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                              Wrong personnel indeed for Detroit.
                              Totally agreed--but I'm also talking about where they were playing in the end zone.
                              Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                              Vince Lombardi

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