Hail Mary

[Pugger]

I read somewhere today, or heard it on nfln, that there might have been confusion from both teams about if they were allowed to sub on the untimed down
That was one of the reasons giving for Calvin not being on the field, while slow LBers were

Could/should the loins had called a TO before the play?

[pbmax]

Best video of the throw I have seen.

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Rewind-Packers-27-Lions-23/eb39c59f-5715-48a2-a46a-cc029fc782f9

All the NFL Films angles:

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Aaron-Rodgers-answers-prayer-with-Hail-Mary/716561ce-305b-4e8b-9859-d037311a46eb?campaign=sf16572629

[Deputy Nutz]

GM Michelle, fwiw, is down south but still a die hard Green n Gold Supporter

.i don't think she appreciated our(Skinbasket, nutz) flavor. After Skinbasket commented on her sick dog we didn't see her again.

That trip was a lot of fun

[Zool]

Then this is a major screw up by the loins. We don't have Teddy Bridgewater under center...

Best description I read was that neither team was sure what they could do for substitutions based on the fact that it was an extra play. It's the only thing that makes any sense.

[Patler]

If the Packers did not have their "Hail Mary" group on the field (and they have admitted that they did not) why would the Lions put in their typical group for defending it? Do you really want Calvin Johnson on the field defensively if the Packers are running a lateral play like the previous one? Even if you THINK Rodgers can throw it 70 yards, wouldn't you respond to what the Packers put out there, and in this case have tacklers on the field?

I can't blame the Lions for who they put out there.

[Fritz]

Then you're not a Lions fan. They are having no problem lambasting the defensive alignment on what Michael Cohen magically described as a "parabolic hoist."

[mraynrand]

... what Michael Cohen magically described as a "parabolic hoist."

that's very hyperbolic.

[Patler]

Did you see Janis on that fly pattern? He ran for like 10 yards with his arms in the air slowing down... I'd say he wasn't in there because he can't catch. My guess.

Oh yeah.
Was thinking the same thing.
This kid is supposed to be a burner and all that shit, but he can't even run a 9?
Janis' development is SLOW.
The kid knows a route tree of about 2 patterns.
The slant and the shallow cross (sometimes).

I think Janis simply couldn't locate the ball on that one. I have no idea why Rodgers threw that one so high. It was probably well above where Janis was looking, so he slowed not knowing where it was. That was one of the stranger looking passes that I have seen Rodgers throw. Unlike a hail mary, where receivers turn back and face the throw and can pick up a skyball, Janis probably had to break stride just to twist his head and shoulders around to look that high.

The reason Janis looked so awkward on the deep pass was just as I suspected, he couldn't locate the ball because it was thrown so high:

"It was just me, I couldn't see the ball," Janis said. "I looked up and the trajectory of the ball was super high and I just didn't see it. I had the guy beat and I was running and I looked back for the ball and didn't see it and I slowed up a little bit.

"Then I realized he threw it to me. By the time I realized where the ball was, it was too late."

[Maxie the Taxi]

You realize, of course, Janis just gave Arod another reason not to trust him or throw to him.

[MadScientist]

Rodgers practiced the moon balls with R.Rodgers. It seems Janis needed some of those pre-game as well.

[Fritz]

Oh yeah.

Was thinking the same thing.

This kid is supposed to be a burner and all that shit, but he can't even run a 9?

Janis' development is SLOW.

The kid knows a route tree of about 2 patterns.

The slant and the shallow cross (sometimes).

Jeff Janis's route tree.

[pbmax]

You realize, of course, Janis just gave Arod another reason not to trust him or throw to him.

Yeah, but unlike some other issues, that should be eminently correctable and easily demonstrated in practice. In an odd way, this is what progress will look like.

There will be easier throws to him.

[Patler]

You realize, of course, Janis just gave Arod another reason not to trust him or throw to him.

I disagree. That throw, at that distance, was amazingly odd. My comment when he threw it was that if he needed to get that much air under it, his arm must really be hurting. With the throw at the end of the game, I think Rodgers proved that he just threw a very odd ball to Janis. After watching it many times (I recorded the game) I also think if Janis had maintained stride, the ball would have been under thrown, because they didn't miss by that much, even with the herky jerky roundabout path that Janis took to it.

I'm not sure why any receiver would have looked that high for the ball in that situation. It was a real moon ball.

Maybe Janis doesn't "trust" Rodgers, and that is why he slowed? Janis has been open on three deep plays that I can recall that were underthrown. One resulted in the PI call, one Janis stopped, and broke up a possible interception. If Rodgers continually underthrows him in practice, it would be natural for Janis to slow.

Just maybe Rodgers has yet to dial in Janis's speed on those routes.

[pbmax]

^ I still think he was bothered by pressure on that play. He launched it high and perhaps early to avoid entanglements.

[pbmax]

At least they haven't lost their sense of humor. I guess. The Hail Mary from the receivers point of view: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...l-hail-mary-td

Its a seriously funny read. Basically nothing about the last three plays worked out as planned.