More Banjo: Week 14 vs Cowboys

[MadScientist]

I have never understood all the Romo love. Over his career, he has found almost as many ways to lose important games as Jay Cutler has.

Well they are a playoff team with him and dog shit without him. The Bears are dog shit without Cuttler, but only mediocre with him.

[smuggler]

Whatever the case with Romo, it's clear the Cowpokes needed more from the QB yesterday.

[Patler]

Romo > Cassell

Don't need to go farther than that.

So what? That doesn't mean the Packers would have lost if Romo had played, as several have suggested.

[pbmax]

So what? That doesn't mean the Packers would have lost if Romo had played, as several have suggested.

Would have been more competitive, don't you think?

Not saying its a guaranteed loss, but he is clearly better equipped to use Bryant and Witten. Jimmy Johnson said the Cowboys should test the Packer DBs deep, Cassel could never do it.

[Fritz]

Would have been more competitive, don't you think?

Not saying its a guaranteed loss, but he is clearly better equipped to use Bryant and Witten. Jimmy Johnson said the Cowboys should test the Packer DBs deep, Cassel could never do it.

Agreed. Maybe Dez would've had seven or eight drops if Romo had played.

[Patler]

Would have been more competitive, don't you think?

Not saying its a guaranteed loss, but he is clearly better equipped to use Bryant and Witten. Jimmy Johnson said the Cowboys should test the Packer DBs deep, Cassel could never do it.

More competitive? I don't know, maybe.
Better equipped to....etc. - again, I say, so what?

Rodgers is better equipped than all but a few players to do most things asked of QBs, but that does not ensure that they will be competitive in any one game, as we have seen several times this year. In the games he has played this year, Romo has more interceptions than TDs. Maybe he would have had 5 TDs against GB. Maybe he would have had 3 interceptions and a lost fumble.

The game is played with the players who are available, and the presence of any who was not available does not ensure any different result.

[pbmax]

^ I am not saying that hypothetical Romo changes the result. For my part its trying to project forward, playing Palmer and Wilson. Maybe even Carr.

For others it might simply be an effort to discount the win to fit their preferred narrative that the team is secretly terrible and is only one player away from being the AFC South.

[Patler]

^ I am not saying that hypothetical Romo changes the result. For my part its trying to project forward, playing Palmer and Wilson. Maybe even Carr.

For others it might simply be an effort to discount the win to fit their preferred narrative that the team is secretly terrible and is only one player away from being the AFC South.

Ya, I was addressing more the second than the first. The ones who want to think GB was merely "lucky" because Romo is out. That is a never ending carousal, because there is always another injury to consider in discounting the result.

I'm not sure this game has much value in projecting forward, either. Since we did not see Romo, I'm not sure how to project what we saw from Cassell to what a real NFL QB might do.

I haven't seen Cassell in a while, but he didn't even look like an NFL talent. His entry into a throw was so slow and deliberate, with the ball guided more than thrown. Looked more like a high school kid throwing the ball than an NFL player.

[pbmax]

Packer Report @PackerReport 3h3 hours ago
Tweeted this late last night. In my Numbers story, I had the #Packers forcing 15 missed tackles yesterday. Defense missed just one.


Cassell seemed to have a real problem with a wet ball.

[mraynrand]

"I don't think it was the punt height," said Whitehead. "I wasn't getting the right time to make a move.

"I watched film, especially of the punter. I know he likes to shank the ball a lot, and I wanted to get a bead on him. I felt I did that, and Janis just had a good game."

Maybe Janis is Jarrett Bush - and Marcus Wilson going back further - great ST guy that just can't crack the O lineup because he doesn't have whatever it takes - brains, instinct, hands, whatever.

[red]

Packer Report @PackerReport 3h3 hours ago
Tweeted this late last night. In my Numbers story, I had the #Packers forcing 15 missed tackles yesterday. Defense missed just one.


Cassell seemed to have a real problem with a wet ball.

so if 3 guys latch on to lacy, and eddy carries them all 15 yards, does that count as 3 missed tackles?

[pbmax]

so if 3 guys latch on to lacy, and eddy carries them all 15 yards, does that count as 3 missed tackles?

I think that is one broken tackle, 2 broken assists.

[pbmax]

Football Perspective @fbgchase 1h1 hour ago
3K yard QB, 1K yard runner, 2 1K yard receivers, 0 playoff games

09 PIT
08 GB
07 CLE
06 CIN/STL
02 BUF
01 NO
00 JAX
99 GB/DEN
95 CHI
81 MIN


NAME 'EM!

[Patler]

so if 3 guys latch on to lacy, and eddy carries them all 15 yards, does that count as 3 missed tackles?

I think that is one broken tackle, 2 broken assists.

When does it become a broken tackle? Assume one guy latches on, never lets go and eventually brings him down by himself. If Lacy drags him 1 yard, is that a broken tackle? 2 yards? 5 yards? 10 yards? Or, since the guy never fell off and eventually makes the tackle, is it no broken tackle at all?

[Cheesehead Craig]

When does it become a broken tackle? Assume one guy latches on, never lets go and eventually brings him down by himself. If Lacy drags him 1 yard, is that a broken tackle? 2 yards? 5 yards? 10 yards? Or, since the guy never fell off and eventually makes the tackle, is it no broken tackle at all?

I think that's yards after contact.