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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
    I still think Peppers plays here next year.
    I think so too, but maybe with a restructure and a bit of a pay cut.
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    • #17
      I wonder what Jerel Worthy is thinking right now.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
        I still think Peppers plays here next year.
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        I think so too, but maybe with a restructure and a bit of a pay cut.
        Ya, it wouldn't surprise me if he is back next year. I doubt it will be with any kind of restucture, because I doubt they will want to add any more years to his contract, and the existing terms reduce his 2016 salary quite a bit from this year's salary as it is.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Ya, it wouldn't surprise me if he is back next year. I doubt it will be with any kind of restucture, because I doubt they will want to add any more years to his contract, and the existing terms reduce his 2016 salary quite a bit from this year's salary as it is.
          Peppers is due to make $10.5M at 36 years of age. I don't think we will bring him back at anywhere close to those numbers.

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          • #20
            Daniels is 3rd in guaranteed money. Anyone know where the average in the first two years falls? ($11mil per)
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Daniels is 3rd in guaranteed money. Anyone know where the average in the first two years falls? ($11mil per)
              Piecing together the details:

              $42 million contract extension.
              $12 million signing bonus.
              $22 million over the first 15 months (per JSO)

              That would mean $10 million for any adjusted 2015 salary (not sure if the window is still open for that, or not) workout and roster bonuses this coming off season and 2016 salary, weekly roster bonuses, etc..

              It would also leave $20 million for all types of compensation payable in 2017, 2018 and 2019. Unless, it isn't four additional years, but four years including a restructured 2015, in which case the $20 million would cover only two years, 2017 & 2018.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Daniels is 3rd in guaranteed money. Anyone know where the average in the first two years falls? ($11mil per)
                tied for 7th for all DE's (3-4 and 4-3)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Piecing together the details:

                  $42 million contract extension.
                  $12 million signing bonus.
                  $22 million over the first 15 months (per JSO)

                  That would mean $10 million for any adjusted 2015 salary (not sure if the window is still open for that, or not) workout and roster bonuses this coming off season and 2016 salary, weekly roster bonuses, etc..

                  It would also leave $20 million for all types of compensation payable in 2017, 2018 and 2019. Unless, it isn't four additional years, but four years including a restructured 2015, in which case the $20 million would cover only two years, 2017 & 2018.
                  by my fucked up math, his cap hits in the first 2 years should both be less then 8 million per year, with the last two years averaging 13 million dollar hits

                  unless they figure out how to get the prorted bonus to start with this season. then those numbers would drop by about a half million per year

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by red View Post
                    by my fucked up math, his cap hits in the first 2 years should both be less then 8 million per year, with the last two years averaging 13 million dollar hits

                    unless they figure out how to get the prorted bonus to start with this season. then those numbers would drop by about a half million per year
                    There is a cutoff date before which in-season extensions can be written to include the current season, but I think they might be past that.

                    It looks like the cap hit for 2016 will be larger than you suggest, because he gets his signing bonus and another $10 million between now and the end of 2016. I assume a lot of that $10M will count against the 2016 cap.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      There is a cutoff date before which in-season extensions can be written to include the current season, but I think they might be past that.

                      It looks like the cap hit for 2016 will be larger than you suggest, because he gets his signing bonus and another $10 million between now and the end of 2016. I assume a lot of that $10M will count against the 2016 cap.
                      good catch. 22 million over the first 15 months

                      so he gets the signing bonus now, and it looks like a 10 million dollar salary for next season

                      so a 13 million dollar hit in 2016, and an average of just under 10 million the remaining 3 years

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                      • #26
                        Yeah, that was my mistake. It was $22m in the first 15 months, not $22m over the first two years.

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                        • #27
                          Well, let's get him some help on that line, whether it's Raji and a real defensive tackle, or Pennel in the middle with a real defensive tackle. A 5 tech who can wreak havoc, now that Datone Jones is becoming an OLB.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            I wonder what Jerel Worthy is thinking right now.
                            "I'm not Worthy, I'm not Worthy!"
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #29
                              Well, his ship has come in. Let's see if Daniels takes this as his cue to kick back and take 'er easy.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Well, let's get him some help on that line, whether it's Raji and a real defensive tackle, or Pennel in the middle with a real defensive tackle. A 5 tech who can wreak havoc, now that Datone Jones is becoming an OLB.
                                and thats the big problem

                                yes, daniels is the defensive leader, yes he is by far the best lineman, yes, its right to pay a guy like that his fair share

                                but when you look at how much we are now spending on our front 7 (if peppers stays next year) and look at how little pressure they put on other QBs on any kind of consistent basis, its a litle alarming to me

                                and if we then have to pay raji anywhere close to 10 million a year, its gonna be nuts

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