Daniels extended!

[pbmax]

Pennel is the guy who will anchor future lines against the run with Daniels. He's been playing well and is ahead of Guion. We'll see if he can handle the nose.

[Joemailman]

and thats the big problem

yes, daniels is the defensive leader, yes he is by far the best lineman, yes, its right to pay a guy like that his fair share

but when you look at how much we are now spending on our front 7 (if peppers stays next year) and look at how little pressure they put on other QBs on any kind of consistent basis, its a litle alarming to me

and if we then have to pay raji anywhere close to 10 million a year, its gonna be nuts

I don't think there's any way they'll pay Raji anything close 10M.

[Patler]

and thats the big problem

yes, daniels is the defensive leader, yes he is by far the best lineman, yes, its right to pay a guy like that his fair share

but when you look at how much we are now spending on our front 7 (if peppers stays next year) and look at how little pressure they put on other QBs on any kind of consistent basis, its a litle alarming to me

and if we then have to pay raji anywhere close to 10 million a year, its gonna be nuts

I think you suffer from the same affliction I do. I look at Neal with about a $4M cap figure and it seems absurd. But then when I remember that next year you can be looking at average salaries of nearly $3M for a 53 man roster, and I remember that well over half the roster gets less than $1M, it hits home that you don't have to be a great player anymore to get a $3-5M/year contract, you just have to be useful. Guys like Raji, Guijon and Perry who cost less than $3M against the cap are no problem at all, because there are a lot of guys like Elliot, Malumba, Thomas, Ryan and Pennel, too.

Now days, if you get a 2nd contract and are in the regular rotation of players, you are going to make $3M+, absent unusual circumstances (like Raji & Guijon). If you are a quasi-starter, you will get even more.

[Patler]

Pennel is the guy who will anchor future lines against the run with Daniels. He's been playing well and is ahead of Guion. We'll see if he can handle the nose.

He is starting to show some things, isn't he? Nice progression of development. Hopefully, next year it will be a big jump.

[smuggler]

If you want to retain a player after their first contract, regardless of their skill, you have to pay $2-3 million a year. What were we shelling out for Erik Walden and Jarrett Bush? Neal is good depth, so we paid to retain him.

I think Raji will probably get like 2 years, $12 million unless he wants to go play on some other team.

[pbmax]

He is starting to show some things, isn't he? Nice progression of development. Hopefully, next year it will be a big jump.

Finally a guy who made the second year jump and didn't strain his hamstring or tweak an ankle.

[Patler]

Finally a guy who made the second year jump and didn't strain his hamstring or tweak an ankle.

Dang it pb, THERE ARE THREE GAMES LEFT YET!!!!

[pbmax]

Whoops.

[Pugger]

Well, let's get him some help on that line, whether it's Raji and a real defensive tackle, or Pennel in the middle with a real defensive tackle. A 5 tech who can wreak havoc, now that Datone Jones is becoming an OLB.

That contract should be a carrot for Raji.

[Fritz]

So do you throw money at Raji if you think Pennel can do it next year on the cheap, or do you cover your ass and sign Raji, knowing you can use them both?

[denverYooper]

So do you throw money at Raji if you think Pennel can do it next year on the cheap, or do you cover your ass and sign Raji, knowing you can use them both?

Raji might not cost all that much.

[Patler]

Daniels' contract details per JSO:

$12 M signing bonus divided over 5 caps, 2015-2019.
No other adjustment in 2015 compensation.
$17 M through 2016, $22M previously reported includes 2017 roster bonus.
Includes 4 Pro Bowl escalators of $125K each.
$41M deal without Pro Bowl escalators, $42.5 if all escalators met.

Year by year:

2015: $12 million signing bonus.

2016: $800,000 base salary, $3.3 million roster bonus, $400,000 workout bonus, $500,000 per-game roster bonus.

2017: $2.1 million base salary, $5.0 million roster bonus, $400,000 workout bonus, $500,000 per-game roster bonus.

2018: $6.6 million base salary, $400,000 workout bonus, $500,000 per-game roster bonus.

2019: $7.6 million base salary, $400,000 workout bonus, $500,000 per-game roster bonus.

[Patler]

Peppers is due to make $10.5M at 36 years of age. I don't think we will bring him back at anywhere close to those numbers.

He only makes a maximum $8M in new money, $7M salary, $500K each for workout and game day roster bonuses. The $10.5 figure is his cap cost, which includes $2.5M of dead money even if they release him.

To keep him another year will cost a maximum of $8M.

[Rutnstrut]

Peppers is due to make $10.5M at 36 years of age. I don't think we will bring him back at anywhere close to those numbers.

Hopefully they don't bring him back at all. Let him go somewhere else and play part time like he does in GB, he is very over rated.

[Patler]

Hopefully they don't bring him back at all. Let him go somewhere else and play part time like he does in GB, he is very over rated.

Peppers has been kind of quiet this year, yet he has made some significant plays at key times, such as the strip sack recovered by Ryan. He does have 7 sacks in 11 games playing fewer snaps. He had 7 for all of last year. He has been invisible this year in pass coverage, no PDefs or Ints, after having 11 and 2 last year.

I won't be surprised at all if they bring him back. I'm not sure if I care much either way, if they do or don't bring him back. I don't think they have anyone else who deserves to take his playing time.