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  • #16
    What I am missing on this list is RB, and a true WR. I don't think the Packers need another WR. I think it will really cloud the mix coming next year. I like the 6 guys the Packers have already. I really like Derrick Henry from Alabama but I don't see the Packers dropping a first round pick for him. He might fall to the late 2nd if he test poorly but then why bother to take an Eddie Lacy 2.0.

    Another guy I like is a homer pick for the Badgers, But Derrick Watt is a fantastic athlete and my opinion was misused as a fullback at Wisconsin. He has H-back or TE written all over him at the next level.

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    • #17
      Nutz, I like your draft concept as well. Except TT would never use a number one on a TE, IMO.

      I would like a fast, hard-hitting, good tackling SS because I'd like to see our defense pair a bigger safety with Barrington, rather than a typical ILB. With TE's getting faster and more integral and RB's getting more receptions and running routes over the middle, I think a hybrid SS/ILB is the way of the future.

      Considering what I just wrote, I think the Packers offense MUST go the way of the future and acquire a big, fast, good-hands TE and a quick, good hands RB and incorporate them more into our offense. I also think we need another good WR to avoid the situation we had this year. We need a smaller, speedy WR like Tyler Lockett or Antonio Brown. I'd be willing to spend a top draft choice to get one.

      As for RB's, I notice two that are quick, fast and near the top of the NCAA stats in pass receiving: Kenneth Dixon and Tyler Ervin. Dixon would require a higher draft choice. Ervin is a "scatback" type and will probably be available in later rounds...unless he blows the top off the combine.
      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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      • #18
        I think it is difficult to find a player that can play every down as an undersized ILB. I like the idea but to find a player like Thomas Davis for the Panthers is like finding a needle in a haystack. Davis was an all-american SS for Georgia and was drafted by the Panthers and ended playing OLB.

        So when I looked at this situation, which I like I decided that it could be addressed lower in the draft since the chance of hitting it is a low.


        TT might not take a TE in the first round, but I would.

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        • #19
          Depends on if that TE could be had in the 2nd. Wasn't Ertz a 2nd rounder?

          Granted, it would probably mean giving up our 4th round pick. But we have 3 this year.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
            We need another stud just in case Jordy isn't the same player he was before the injury. We can all see how this offense suffers without a legit #1 opposite Cobb. I like Adams and Monty but these guys are not the type of WR that keep defensive coordinators up at night.
            Good idea...nice post.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by smuggler View Post
              Because this is the kind of dumb shit I do when I can't sleep...

              R1 Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama
              R2 Adolphus Washington, DE, Ohio State
              R3 Kyle Murphy, OT, Stanford
              R4 Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
              R5 Bronson Kaufusi, OLB, Brigham Young
              R6 Bryce Williams, TE, East Carolina
              R7 Jonathan Williams, RB, Arkansas

              Drafting three Williamseses, because, why not?

              Actually, two of those guys might be well unavailable in the spots I put them. (WR) Mike Williams might have been the #1 receiver taken but he fractured a vertebra in his neck and missed the season. If he checks out medically, he'll be gone by the 4th round. If he doesn't, we won't pick him. (RB) Jonathan Williams had a foot injury and missed time. If he is healthy, he'll get taken before the 7th.
              An early Mock Draft speaks mountains to this Packerrat:

              Thanks smuggler....I know how much effort it takes to get a decent Mock completed.

              You pretty much covered our needs. I'm thinking another DB (BPA ....CB or safety) should be added to the mix.

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              • #22
                R1 ILB Jaylon Smith, Notre Dame
                R2 NT Jarran Reed, Alabama
                R3 WR Will Fuller, Notre Dame
                R4 TE Nick Vannett, Ohio State
                R4 DE Adam Gotsis, Virginia Tech
                R4 G Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas
                R5 FS DeAndre Houston-Carson, William & Mary
                R6 OLB Joe Schobert, Wisconsin
                R7 WR Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa

                Probably the least TT-like of any mock I've done. A Wisconsin player and a bunch of big-school picks. Jaylon Smith has an outside chance of falling to us because of his knee injury earlier in the month. He would be great in our defense. Jarran Reed (some people have him as a 1st rounder) would be a good contingency for Raji's ultimate departure. Speaking of Raji, comp pick Sebastian Tretola has a similar expression in some of the pictures I saw of him. Kind of funny, really.

                I really like TE Nick Vannett. I think he was wasted as a receiver with Ohio State because of all their talent. I'm really hoping we can get him, I think he has a good chance to be an all-around good tight-end in the style of Jason Witten, if not as awesome.

                I wanted to find a RB in there somewhere. I guess we could go with C.J. Prosise instead of Gotsis, but then we've got 3 players from Notre Dame in one draft. Oh well.
                Last edited by smuggler; 01-25-2016, 03:59 AM.

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                • #23
                  I personally think Joe Schobert will go much higher than round 6. Call me a homer, but here is the thing. The guy will test off the charts at the combine.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                    R1 ILB Jaylon Smith, Notre Dame
                    R2 NT Jarran Reed, Alabama
                    R3 WR Will Fuller, Notre Dame
                    R4 TE Nick Vannett, Ohio State
                    R4 DE Adam Gotsis, Virginia Tech
                    R4 G Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas
                    R5 FS DeAndre Houston-Carson, William & Mary
                    R6 OLB Joe Schobert, Wisconsin
                    R7 WR Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa

                    Probably the least TT-like of any mock I've done. A Wisconsin player and a bunch of big-school picks. Jaylon Smith has an outside chance of falling to us because of his knee injury earlier in the month. He would be great in our defense. Jarran Reed (some people have him as a 1st rounder) would be a good contingency for Raji's ultimate departure. Speaking of Raji, comp pick Sebastian Tretola has a similar expression in some of the pictures I saw of him. Kind of funny, really.

                    I really like TE Nick Vannett. I think he was wasted as a receiver with Ohio State because of all their talent. I'm really hoping we can get him, I think he has a good chance to be an all-around good tight-end in the style of Jason Witten, if not as awesome.

                    I wanted to find a RB in there somewhere. I guess we could go with C.J. Prosise instead of Gotsis, but then we've got 3 players from Notre Dame in one draft. Oh well.
                    I read Jaylon Smith will be out of commission and in rehab his entire rookie year. That won't fly in GB IMO.
                    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                    • #25
                      Smith had the bad news type of knee injury, he tore more than just his ACL.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                        Smith had the bad news type of knee injury, he tore more than just his ACL.
                        Yes, it was ACL and the LCL as well. The LCL will heal on its own without surgery, typically, unless it's completely torn. There was supposedly no meniscus damage, which is a good sign. There was fear of nerve damage in his knee, but those fears (according to what I have read) seem unfounded.

                        It's possible he would be on PUP and could only participate after the first 6 weeks. It's also possible he misses the whole season. At a certain point, teams are going to ask themselves whether missing 6, 10, or 16 games from a guy is worth "trading up" to get a top-10 linebacker. Since it's quite possible he would not even produce in 2016, contending teams might not be inclined to invest in him. That could mean, if he gets beyond pick 18-22 range, it would take a rebuilding team trading up back into the first round for him to get snagged in the first round. I think it's a savvy long-term investment, if his knee checks out.

                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                        I personally think Joe Schobert will go much higher than round 6. Call me a homer, but here is the thing. The guy will test off the charts at the combine.
                        I have seen him listed as a 3th rounder in places. In others he's a 6 or 7. It's quite possible his stock will improve with him combine. He's a little undersized for a 3-4 OLB (which is the position he best projects to, according to my reading), but with the NFL focusing more and more on specialization (and pass rush), he could maybe sneak into the 2nd round, if a team falls in love. Only one team has to value him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder to ruin my mock placement, which is more than possible.

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                        • #27
                          I really like my original mock draft. I want to do another one, but whats the point?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                            I think it is difficult to find a player that can play every down as an undersized ILB. I like the idea but to find a player like Thomas Davis for the Panthers is like finding a needle in a haystack. Davis was an all-american SS for Georgia and was drafted by the Panthers and ended playing OLB.
                            Ryan Shazier fits the mold. But yes, a very rare player.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                              I really like my original mock draft. I want to do another one, but whats the point?
                              Why mess with perfection??

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                                I personally think Joe Schobert will go much higher than round 6. Call me a homer, but here is the thing. The guy will test off the charts at the combine.
                                Yeah, I agree. Not sure about the measurements but him and Hayden both look like good NFL players to me.

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