I struggle with taking an OLB and trying to transition him to the inside in a 3-4. Maybe if you take a strongside OLB in a 4-3 defense, but not a OLB in a 3-4, they just can't do it without struggling.
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TT treats the ILB position like a spare tire. He wants to get 'em with a mid pick and pay 'em middle money. Ragland for a 4-5 rookie deal might fill the bill. I saw him a couple times last year, he looks like a stud. The rap on him is over reaction and over pursuit.
Sounds like he'll fit right in.
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I myself have made that argument - a few years gone by. The game has changed enough in the last 5-6 years though, that I don't think that is supportable anymore. 2 down LB's are going the way of the DoDo Bird.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostI struggle with taking an OLB and trying to transition him to the inside in a 3-4. Maybe if you take a strongside OLB in a 4-3 defense, but not a OLB in a 3-4, they just can't do it without struggling.
Besides, we already have stack and shed ILB's - Ryan and Barrington. Problem is - they can't run, and they can't cover. We get absolutely killed in the middle of the field and in man coverage with our LB's. If we are in the nickel, which we more than likely will be - all a team need do is throw 3 wides out there, prompting the predictable 2-4 Capers will counter with... without cover LB's underneath, your defense is easy pickin's.
More than that - if we are going to move Matthews back outside - then that means we are back where we started with needing to find at 2 servicable ILB's not just one.
These are kinds of holes that tend to cost our team big throughout the course of a season.wist
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Originally posted by smuggler View Post
I would be so fucking thrilled with Billings...
Andrew Billings, DT
School: Baylor | Conference: BIG12
College Experience: Junior | Hometown: Waco, TX
Height/Weight: 6-1 / 311 lbs.
" ...... A hometown product from Waco, Billings became a full-time starting nose tackle as a sophomore in 2014 and finished third on the team leaders with 11.5 tackles for loss to go with a pair of sacks and nine quarterback hits.
West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen said in October that "Billings is the best kid I've ever gone against."
Billings finished his junior year with a team-high 15.0 tackles for loss and 5.5 sacks, adding 40 tackles and a forced fumble. He announced on Jan. 12 that he would forego his senior season......."Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-22-2016, 02:39 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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[U]2016 NFL Mock Draft[/U]
Mock draft 5.0: Mock Draft Shakeup . QB Jared Goff falls to Pick NO. 15 - Rams
By Daniel Jeremiah | NFL Media analyst
Published: March 29, 2016 at 06:21 p.m.
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NFL.COM's Daniel Jeremiah's Mock informs us that [SIZE=1][COLOR="#B22222"]the Packers Pick at NO. 27 will be:
OLB Darron Lee (Ohio State) - GRADE 6.07
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profil...lee?id=2555322
The first DT off the board in his Mock is Chris Jones (Miississippi State) to the Detroit Lions.
DT Sheldon Rankings is awarded to the Buffalo Bills at NO. 19
NT Andrew Billings is selected for the Washington Redskins at NO. 21
Andrew Billings is a good one. BIG - STRONG and FAST:
Chad Reuter says teams that are feeling particularly risk-averse could be drawn to these prospects. His series on the safest picks continues with edge rushers, interior D-linemen and LBs.
DT Jarran Reed is picked for the Cincy Bengals at NO. 24
OT Taylor Decker is picked for the Seattle Seahawks at NO. 26.
For Picks NO. 22 to NO. 28 (7 Picks) 2 CB's and 2 WR's come off the board.
This fella is special. CB Jalen Ramsey is selected at NO. 3 for the San Diego Chargers.Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-30-2016, 09:43 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Comment woodbuck27:
I've been looking at and analyzing NFL.COM's Chad Reuter's Five Round Mock.
I'll post his selections for the Green Bay Packers in this thread:
Chad Reuter
Chad Reuter has covered the NFL draft since 2000. He was hired by NFLDraftScout.com as a senior analyst in 2007, and continued in that role when NFLDraftScout and CBSSports.com formed their partnership for the 2009 draft. He joined NFL Network and NFL.com in December 2011 as a senior researcher, assisting in the production of the East-West Shrine Game, Senior Bowl, Scouting Combine and NFL Draft.
Five-round mock 5.0:
The Cowboys land big names in Chad Reuter's new mock draft, including a potential heir apparent for Tony Romo in Round 3. See Reuter's five-round forecast.
By Chad Reuter Draft analyst NFL.COM
Published: March 28, 2016 at 04:40 PM
Note: 238 Comments
GREEN BAY PACKERS PICKS:
Rd 1, Pick 27 (27) Rd 2, Pick 26 (57) Rd 3, Pick 25 (88)
Rd 4, Pick 27 (125) Rd 4, Pick 33 (131) Rd 4, Pick 39 (137)
Rd 5, Pick 26 (163)
Rd 6, Pick 25 (200) Rd 7, Pick 27 (248)
PICK NO. 27: Jarran Reed - DT, Alabama Grade = 6.10
Chad Reuter says teams that are feeling particularly risk-averse could be drawn to these prospects. His series on the safest picks continues with edge rushers, interior D-linemen and LBs.
B.J. Raji is taking a hiatus from football, so the Packers are in need of help in the interior. With his combination of strength, athleticism and foot quickness, Reed has a chance to be a long-term starter.
PICK NO.57. Kentrell Brothers, ILB, Missouri Grade = 5.56
Undersized for an inside 'backer (a potential factor in the lack of interest by major programs in his home state of Oklahoma),
Brothers recognizes plays quickly, works his way through traffic, and flows down the line very effectively as a run-stopper.
His junior year was impressive (122 total tackles as a second-team All-SEC pick in 2014), but leading the nation in tackles per game (12.7, 152 total), making more plays in the backfield (12 tackles for loss) and proving himself able to make plays against the pass (two interceptions) and ....
on special teams (three blocked kicks) made him an easy second-team All-American pick by the Associated Press and USA Today for 2015.
Pick NO. 88 Joe Schobert, OLB, Wisconsin Grade = 5.37
Wisconsin has a storied walk-on tradition, producing NFL players like J.J. Watt and Jim Leonhard; Schobert hopes to be the next non-scholarship signee to jump to the NFL. He nearly began his career at North Dakota as a walk-on, but the Badger coaches wised up to offer him a spot on the team. Schobert's role grew each season, from reserve as a true freshman to key reserve (24 tackles, one start) in 2013 to consensus honorable mention All-Big Ten pick (13.5 tackles for loss) in his junior year.
His draft stock rose to new heights in 2015, as he was named second-team All-American by USA Today and the Associated Press, as well as the Big Ten Linebacker of the Year and first-team All-Conference.
He finished among the nations leaders in sacks (9.5) and tackles for loss (19.5), displaying the strength and motor to earn a spot in the NFL
PICK NO. 125. Tyler Johnstone, OT, Oregon Grade = 4.85
Johnstone suffered a knee injury in Oregon's 2013 Alamo Bowl win over Texas. He and his doctors thought an offseason of rehabbing would heal it; unfortunately, his ACL didn't agree. But after sitting out the 2014 season, Johnstone proved to be back at full strength in his senior campaign, starting every game and earning first-team All-Pac-12 honors.
Using his time off last year to add bulk might pay off in the end, as now he has strength to fend off bull rushers as well as the athleticism to handle good pass rushers on the edge.
PICK NO.131. (compensatory selection): Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota Grade = 5.42
Murray's size, durability (started 39 straight games) and physical nature should land him near the top of NFL teams' cornerback wish list.
The 2014 second-team and 2015 third-team All-Big Ten selection's experience in press man coverage is extensive, and his ball skills are good enough to make plays (two interceptions, 24 pass break-ups) when given the opportunity.
He stepped up his play as a senior, making more plays behind the line (four tackles for loss) and lining up ball carriers for the big hit, forcing three fumbles.
He's also a special-teams stalwart who blocked two punts in 2014, which will only increase his impact as a rookie on Sundays.
PICK NO.137. (compensatory selection): Matthew Ioannidis, DE, Temple Grade = 5.57
Ioannidis (eye-an-NYE-dis) has been a valuable performer from the Owls since halfway through his freshman year, when the team took off his redshirt.
Whether lined up outside or inside, his power and hustle impact nearly every play.
The 2014 second-team All-American Athletic Conference pick (11 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks) and 2015 first-team All-Conference pick in 2015 (11.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, five pass breakups) has added bulk to his frame every season.
PICK NO. 163. Joe Dahl, OG, Washington Grade = 5.52
After spending one year at the University of Montana and another sitting out as a transfer student, Dahl stepped into the starting lineup for the Cougars and hasn't left.
He was the teams left guard for the 2013 regular season before moving out to left tackle for the bowl game - his home for the past two seasons.
Its no surprise head coach/offensive mad genius Mike Leach can pass 50 times a game with minimal pressure given Dahl's ability to lock down the quarterbacks blind side with good lateral movement and a solid anchor.
Despite earning first-team All-Pac-12 and USA Today second-team All-American accolades at left tackle in 2015, NFL scouts will want Dahl moved inside at the next level due to his average size and length. Either way, he’'ll be a worthy pick as a potential starter.
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Does anyone like his Mock for the Packers?Originally posted by woodbuck27 View PostComment woodbuck27:
I've been looking at and analyzing NFL.COM's Chad Reuter's Five Round Mock.
I'll post his selections for the Green Bay Packers in this thread:
Chad Reuter
Chad Reuter has covered the NFL draft since 2000. He was hired by NFLDraftScout.com as a senior analyst in 2007, and continued in that role when NFLDraftScout and CBSSports.com formed their partnership for the 2009 draft. He joined NFL Network and NFL.com in December 2011 as a senior researcher, assisting in the production of the East-West Shrine Game, Senior Bowl, Scouting Combine and NFL Draft.
Five-round mock 5.0:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-derrick-henry** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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When it comes to WR I think you have to look at what we have on the roster now, and with respect to the draft look only at WR's that offer something different than what we have.Originally posted by smuggler View PostAs long as we get one of Leonte Carroo, Josh Doctson, Michael Thomas, Sterling Shephard, I think we will be really solid at WR. Those guys are the best (feasible) WRs available to us in the draft. Not sold on Fuller at all, myself.
We have a stable of WR's that fills the bill, except we have only 1 Flanker, Nelson.
The only one of those prospects you mentioned that offers something different or better than what we have is Doctson. Shepard is a lesser version of Cobb; Carroo is a lesser version of Montgomery; and Thomas is a poor route runner, lacks burst, and has to build up speed... he has size, and good hands, but I'd rather invest a high pick in better player.wist
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I'd be okay with Coleman or Doctson in the 1st round... if we miss out on those guys, I like Rashard Higgins further down - despite his terrible 40 time, I think Higgins is a player.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostI was thinking some outside speed to threaten the safeties.......wist
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I think Higgins is overrated. I didn't like him much watching his film, and then he not only timed poorly in the 40, but tested poorly in almost every category. There are only two WRs out of 55 WRs that I looked at who tested worse than Higgins as an overall athlete in this draft, De'Runnya Wilson and D'haquille Williams. At least, those guys go 224+ lbs--while Higgins is 196 lbs. Only one guy out of 86 that I looked at in the last two drafts tested worse, Jarvis Landry. Landry sort of beat the odds (I say sort of because I don't think he's all that good) with the way he tested.Originally posted by wist43 View PostI'd be okay with Coleman or Doctson in the 1st round... if we miss out on those guys, I like Rashard Higgins further down - despite his terrible 40 time, I think Higgins is a player.
It's funny you said that if a CB runs 4.7, why bother looking at him. Well, there aren't any CBs that actually ran 4.7+ (except maybe one fringe guy, Jimmy Pruitt), and there aren't many WRs who timed or tested as poorly as Higgins."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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