Jordy dismissers: Day of Reckoning

[Fritz]

Since most Rats, myself included, are too lazy to hold each other accountable via fact checking, I will proudly say that I predicted the disaster this offense would be without Jordy.

I knew.

[Pugger]

Since most Rats, myself included, are too lazy to hold each other accountable via fact checking, I will proudly say that I predicted the disaster this offense would be without Jordy.

I knew.

But most of us didn't know losing Jordy would be so devastating to our offense. We all thought/hoped the other guys could take up the slack but other teams really suffer when their #1 receiving threat is gone. For example Brady isn't the same without Gronk.

[Fritz]

But I did. I knew. Go back and look up the post-injury posts I made.

No, wait. Don't.

To PB's point, there's something more stanky than just some talent deficiencies here and there, or Jordy's injury. This isn't an undermanned team fighting together. This is a bunch of individuals, at this point. And MM's comment about being sick of the negativity seems revealing.

Maybe MM 's schtick with this team is getting old? Maybe it's all getting stale? There is just no team chemistry here at all.

[hoosier]

I don't think the general reaction here to Jordy's injury was all that ridiculous. I remember that someone, probably Harlan, started a poll about who would be the one to replace Nelson, and most people quite reasonably said it would be Adams. It would be ungenerous to assume that everyone was confidently predicting big things from Adams this year. The reality was (and still is) that the only hope for the Green Bay offense this year is for Adams to play a leading role. The extreme unlikeliness of that happening at this late date corresponds exactly with the Packers chances of winning a playoff game. I should also note (I did a quick search of the archive) that Mad Max started a poll in f'ing June asking whether Adams was going to be the next Boykin. His powers of prediction must be even greater than McGinn's were back in early 2010.

[George Cumby]

But I did. I knew. Go back and look up the post-injury posts I made.

No, wait. Don't.

To PB's point, there's something more stanky than just some talent deficiencies here and there, or Jordy's injury. This isn't an undermanned team fighting together. This is a bunch of individuals, at this point. And MM's comment about being sick of the negativity seems revealing.

Maybe MM 's schtick with this team is getting old? Maybe it's all getting stale? There is just no team chemistry here at all.

Olivia Munn. She has poisoned ARod, fukked up his head and it's infecting the whole team.

[Fritz]

If she had syphilis and fucked the whole team I would say she's infecting the whole team.

But Arod sure does seem to have gone from a-chip-on-his-shoulder-makes-him-even-better to annoyed-with-everyone-all-the-time.

Maybe Olivia Munn was Torrance Marshall's girlfriend all those years ago.

Maybe you're right after all.

[Joemailman]

Olivia Munn. She has poisoned ARod, fukked up his head and it's infecting the whole team.

Stop her before it's too late!

[Carolina_Packer]

[mraynrand]

If she had syphilis and fucked the whole team I would say she's infecting the whole team.

Incorrect. Transmission rates are not 100%.

[red]

so i just had a terrible thought

we;re all pretty much agreeing that the main problem with the offence is that we lost jordy and that the rest of our receivers are too slow to do it on their own

what if jordy loses half a step due to the injury and no longer has the speed to blow the top off defenses?

then we're really fucked

[pbmax]

Nothing stays the same red, that is why you should always draft a receiver in the 2nd round, and a QB/OL in the 4th and 5th rounds. No matter what.

[Joemailman]

They have a tough decision to make regarding the WR position.

IF Jordy comes back 100%

and

IF Adams rebounds and becomes the player TT thought he drafted (He has a good track record here)

and

IF Monty recovers from a bad ankle injury to be the player he looked like early, this plus Cobb is a pretty good group.

It's a lot of IFS though.

[Patler]

There is always the continued development of Abrederis and Janis, too.

To his credit, TT has been looking for the next Jordy Nelson, a big receiver who is fast, and a faster TE to replace Finley. In 2013 it was Charles Johnson. In 2014, it was Jeff Janis. In 2015, it was Kennard Backman (who had a 40 time faster than all but two TEs at the combine). There is still an opportunity for two of the three to pay off.

[Joemailman]

There is always the continued development of Abrederis and Janis, too.

To his credit, TT has been looking for the next Jordy Nelson, a big receiver who is fast, and a faster TE to replace Finley. In 2013 it was Charles Johnson. In 2014, it was Jeff Janis. In 2015, it was Kennard Backman (who had a 40 time faster than all but two TEs at the combine). There is still an opportunity for two of the three to pay off.

But you're saying that TT has used 6th and 7th round picks to try to replace guys drafted in Rounds 2-3. Maybe that approach needs to change.

I wonder what the deal is with Backman. Has he just been so unable to grasp the offense that they won't even activate him? I was high on him early, but had thought he'd be contributing by now.

[Patler]

But you're saying that TT has used 6th and 7th round picks to try to replace guys drafted in Rounds 2-3. Maybe that approach needs to change.

I wonder what the deal is with Backman. Has he just been so unable to grasp the offense that they won't even activate him? I was high on him early, but had thought he'd be contributing by now.

He hasn't only used low draft picks to fill those positions, he has also used higher picks. Jordy Nelson was drafted high in the second round (#36) Adams was lowermiddle second round (#53). Finley was drafted at #91, Richard Rodgers at #98. I mentioned Janis and Backman only because of the speed issue.

Unfortunately, you can't draft 2 or 3 guys in the first or second round every year. Once in a while, maybe. Many questioned why he drafted DBs at 1 and 2 this year. So far, those look like good choices, needed players. Clinton-Dix filled a big hole to, as did Lacy in spite of his struggles this year. For several years people questioned why he didn't use a high pick for a safety to replace Collins. When he found one he liked, he did. I suspect the same will be true with a big, fast WR and/or a fast TE.