Win or Lose? @Washington or Vs. Seattle/Minnesota for Playoffs

[yetisnowman]

Yeah, no way I root for the vikings and won't on Sunday either. But my view and argument (to keep guys out if they can be healthy for the playoff run) is totally consistent with the goals of the Packers (win in the playoffs) . I'm not arguing that I want the Vikings to win, just that I want the Packers to be as healthy as possible for the games that matter. I am also pointing out that there might be a silver lining if they lose, in that they have played better on the road in the playoffs recently. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp?

You seem to be contradicting yourself. By saying we should sit our dinged up linemen and Rodgers and pointing out how a loss would be beneficial in giving us a easier schedule next season. You are not rooting for us to lose per se. But I'm not sure rooting for us to put ourselves in a position where we most certainly will lose is much different.

[pbmax]

I'm one of them. Where the fuck has winning the division gotten this team the last how many years? It's just so Kool-aid drinking homers can say stubby shouldn't be fired because he has won the division x years in a row.

Error detected. Some of the kool-aid drinkers are with you in the Lose vote.

[pbmax]

You seem to be contradicting yourself. By saying we should sit our dinged up linemen and Rodgers and pointing out how a loss would be beneficial in giving us a easier schedule next season. You are not rooting for us to lose per se. But I'm not sure rooting for us to put ourselves in a position where we most certainly will lose is much different.

I think there is a pretty clear line here. Rest the wounded as much as possible and start backups. Even a loss, should it be suffered because of the backups, comes wth benefits down the line. In addition to a bye week for the banged up.

[MadScientist]

Win, because fuck losing.

[woodbuck27]

LOSING ...JUST....SUCKS.

You never plan to lose unless YOUR A LOSER !

[mraynrand]

I think there is a pretty clear line here. Rest the wounded as much as possible and start backups. Even a loss, should it be suffered because of the backups, comes wth benefits down the line. In addition to a bye week for the banged up.

Yes, there are two separate issues: 1) play to lose to deliberately or 2) rest the injured to get them healthy (and if you rest three O-linemen or more, it wold be crazy to put Rodgers out there and try to run your exact same offense).

The issue isn't about playing to lose or liking or hating the Vikings, it's about the best overall strategy for winning playoff games. I'm OK if people think my strategy sucks, but that's all I'm arguing for: what I think is the better strategy for playoff success.

That's why I say rest the injured, put Hundley in there, and design a game plan that is simple and takes advantage of his skills. And then launch it on Minnesota totally unexpectedly and make them adjust on the fly.

[mraynrand]

LOSING ...JUST....SUCKS.

You never plan to lose unless YOUR A LOSER !

profound

[esoxx]

Exactly MadScientist. Fuck losing and the losing losers that voted lose in this god damn non-public poll.

[mraynrand]

Exactly. Fuck losing and the losing losers that voted lose in this god damn nonpublic poll.

I don't agree with the premise of the poll, nor your view of it.

[Rutnstrut]

Error detected. Some of the kool-aid drinkers are with you in the Lose vote.

I know, I was just trying to get esoxx riled up I don't want the Pack to lose, ever. But if some of the players could get a bit more healthy by resting Sunday. I'm all for that. If they play as flat as they have been, it won't matter who is on the field Sunday night.

[yetisnowman]

Yes, there are two separate issues: 1) play to lose to deliberately or 2) rest the injured to get them healthy (and if you rest three O-linemen or more, it wold be crazy to put Rodgers out there and try to run your exact same offense).

The issue isn't about playing to lose or liking or hating the Vikings, it's about the best overall strategy for winning playoff games. I'm OK if people think my strategy sucks, but that's all I'm arguing for: what I think is the better strategy for playoff success.

That's why I say rest the injured, put Hundley in there, and design a game plan that is simple and takes advantage of his skills. And then launch it on Minnesota totally unexpectedly and make them adjust on the fly.

I don't disagree with your strategy completely. I was just surprised it came from you. Again, why was it "unnacceptable" for me to root for Minny to beat Seattle, yet ok in your eyes if we purposefully don't field our best players that may be not 100%, and lose to the Vikings. That's what I don't get. I too was motivated by what I thought gave my favorite team the best chance at playoff success.

[mraynrand]

I don't disagree with your strategy completely. I was just surprised it came from you. Again, why was it "unnacceptable" for me to root for Minny to beat Seattle, yet ok in your eyes if we purposefully don't field our best players that may be not 100%, and lose to the Vikings. That's what I don't get. I too was motivated by what I thought gave my favorite team the best chance at playoff success.

I see where you're coming from. Probably in your example about the Vikings and Seattle, I was just being too extreme. I generally have the same wishes when rivals play each other - to get the outcome best for the Packers. If the Vikings play the Bears for example, I'll want both teams to look horrible, and have the home team win, unless the home team is closer than the other team to the Packers in the standings. Probably my reaction to the Vikings Seattle game (is that the one?) was just a visceral reaction to the idea of 'rooting for' the Vikings.

I want the Packers to play to win this weekend, but if it makes more sense to keep some injured guys out to better their playoff chances, I'm OK with it.

[Bretsky]

Do what you need to do to avoid Seattle; I can't stomach being their bitch again.

[Bretsky]

This team has sucked all optimism out of me; If you could give me a playoff win regardless of circumstance I really don't care.

I will admit that I also cheered for GB to lose at the end of their season when they ended up with the second pick in the draft. I was pissed when we won our last game and lost out on Troy Aikman. Then I was more pissed when they drafted Tony Mandarich over Derrick Thomas (my preference) and Barry Sanders (my second choice). Deon Sanders was the 5th pick that year. We really got boned with our pick

[woodbuck27]

Exactly MadScientist. Fuck losing and the losing losers that voted lose in this god damn non-public poll.