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  • #31
    Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Yup, that is my favorite John Wooden quote of all time.

    He was being interviewed with other great coaches and Red Auerbach was asked about how he got his players to play so hard. Red answered that he demanded 110% effort from all of his players.

    John Wooden answered something to the effect, "By definition 110% is impossible to give. I am happy when I can get 90% out of my players."
    Baloney. Wooden was a relativist. Auerbach was a realist. He understood metaphors. So did Lombardi. My question for Wooden is: Do you have a meter you hook on a kid's uniform to tell you when he's giving you 90% or 100%? Damn just when you think a kid is giving you all he has, he digs deeper and gives you more. Did you see the movie "Unbroken?" Louis Zamperini knew what giving 110% means (or meant, apparently).
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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    • #32
      A realist understands metaphors?
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
        Baloney. Wooden was a relativist. Auerbach was a realist. He understood metaphors. So did Lombardi. My question for Wooden is: Do you have a meter you hook on a kid's uniform to tell you when he's giving you 90% or 100%? Damn just when you think a kid is giving you all he has, he digs deeper and gives you more. Did you see the movie "Unbroken?" Louis Zamperini knew what giving 110% means (or meant, apparently).
        Wooden was 664-162 as a coach and won 10 out of 12 National Championships from '64-'75. I would take that as getting the most out of your players.

        Wooden asked and tracked honest feedback from his players and coaches on many levels. He held them accountable for their performances. He didn't care what the scoreboard said he was always trying to get his players to improve.

        In one interview I heard, he talked about a team that won only 18 games but he was prouder of that team than his team the next season that went undefeated because he got more of the potential out of the previous team.
        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

        -Tim Harmston

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          A realist understands metaphors?
          So to speak.
          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
            Execution is a mighty, all-encompassing word. Execution isn't just focusing on mechanics. To me it's a state of mind. When do we execute our duties 110%? It's when our heart and soul is in the project. Repeated losing, dissension, mistrust of tactics encourage us to make excuses for giving a less than 110% effort. On the other hand, if this team can draw on their professional roots and pull together knowing their backs are against the wall, then execution will take care of itself. McCarthy and team leaders like Arod have to make it happen.
            Don't get too existential now...
            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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            • #36
              I like Wooden's approach better. Auerbach's slogans would just get tiring to me, mostly from reading them too much in the newspaper. Its like a company that has a stated goal that is fundamentally unrealistic. Have seen such pushes produce very bad initiatives and ignore concrete and quantifiable steps that would actually improve the situation. It becomes a game to out semantic the problem; the worship of attitude over results.

              But let's be realistic. Each man was considered a genius because they fell into situations that took advantage of leverage others didn't (or would not allow themselves to) possess.

              Wooden has a Sugar Daddy for the players when that was not policed and he played in a vastly weaker region year after year when tournaments were actually aligned by geography. While its not a crime at all, its not really admirable.

              Auerbach at least had the insight (and a willing owner) to integrate the team (despite the hoary race relations in Boston proper) and that landed him a top generational player and couple of other Hall of Famers.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 26m26 minutes ago
                #Packers CB Sam Shields (concussion protocol) continues to add to his workload. He is in pads.

                Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 26m26 minutes ago
                #Packers practice: NT BJ Raji (concussion) working. Bakhtiari, Elliott, Perillo, Daniels and Neal there but just doing conditioning.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                  Wooden was 664-162 as a coach and won 10 out of 12 National Championships from '64-'75. I would take that as getting the most out of your players.

                  Wooden asked and tracked honest feedback from his players and coaches on many levels. He held them accountable for their performances. He didn't care what the scoreboard said he was always trying to get his players to improve.

                  In one interview I heard, he talked about a team that won only 18 games but he was prouder of that team than his team the next season that went undefeated because he got more of the potential out of the previous team.
                  Wooden could coach. He was just a bit too literal for my tastes.
                  One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                  John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    I like Wooden's approach better. Auerbach's slogans would just get tiring to me, mostly from reading them too much in the newspaper. Its like a company that has a stated goal that is fundamentally unrealistic. Have seen such pushes produce very bad initiatives and ignore concrete and quantifiable steps that would actually improve the situation. It becomes a game to out semantic the problem; the worship of attitude over results.
                    Auerbach was kind of like Stubby minus the Pittsburgh dialect.
                    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                      Don't get too existential now...
                      LOL. Existential wins Super Bowls.
                      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                      • #41
                        Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 4m4 minutes ago
                        Nick Perry (shoulder) dropped down to a limited participant today. Casey Hayward was bumped up to full. B.J. Raji was back in a limited role
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                          Auerbach was kind of like Stubby minus the Pittsburgh dialect.
                          So Rodgers would be able to understand him in the headset?
                          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                          • #43
                            MM Friday PC

                            Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 5h5 hours ago
                            MM on Lacy: Like any RB, he's beat up. Smart with his reps at practice on Thursday.

                            Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 5h5 hours ago
                            McCarthy: We will run both Eddie (Lacy) & James (Starks) this week. #MINvsGB

                            Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 5h5 hours ago
                            Mike McCarthy said both Eddie Lacy and James Starks will have normal workloads Sunday. Starks won't be benched due to fumbles.

                            Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 5h5 hours ago
                            MM says Bakhtiari will hopefully work Saturday. If not, early Sunday. Will get every chance to play vs. Vikings.

                            Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 5h5 hours ago
                            It's a one-game season, McCarthy says. The reality of being successful is high expectations.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #44
                              Well, looks like Linval Joseph is gonna be out which is good news for the GB run game.

                              Tom Johnson and Sharrif Floyd have been pretty solid but Joseph was a one man wrecking crew when healthy this year.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                                Well, looks like Linval Joseph is gonna be out which is good news for the GB run game.

                                Tom Johnson and Sharrif Floyd have been pretty solid but Joseph was a one man wrecking crew when healthy this year.
                                The Packers offense has found ways to be inept against even bad defenses. Don't let the absence of your best lineman discourage you.

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