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  • #61
    I agree. Scooby should go no later than 64 overall. Similar to Kikaha last year.

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    • #62
      I've seen Scooby ranked as high as 36 and as low as 96. Of course, we're way too early for these rankings to really mean anything. Senior Bowl and Combine will obviously impact things. We're 6 weeks away from the Combine.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        I've seen Scooby ranked as high as 36 and as low as 96. Of course, we're way too early for these rankings to really mean anything. Senior Bowl and Combine will obviously impact things. We're 6 weeks away from the Combine.
        Another huge factor is who we sign and resign and who we don't. Runpmc is correct about having to draft a D-lineman or two.
        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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        • #64
          Do you think the Packers end up playing/starting more players who have three years or less service time than other NFL teams? Sometimes I see these players getting scrutinized here, and I sit back and wonder, how many of these guys would be asked to significantly contribute if they were on other teams that delved more into free agency than the Packers do? Because of the team's belief about draft and development (and UDFA's), and the hesitance of delving into free agency, the team forces it's own hand when it comes to playing lesser experienced guys. Is that worth any slack for these players? If we get frustrated with these younger players, what are the alternatives? Bring in more inexperience and try again? Yup, because we know it's not likely to be patched with traditional free agency.
          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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          • #65
            Good question, CP. I'd say that given the average age of the team, it's likely they do. It sure seems like they play a lot of young players, more than some other teams would feel comfortable doing.
            I think that's a decision made by both the GM and the coach.
            I expect it impacts the way they draft -- I think they want guys who can step in and play quickly, with the exception of late round projects they can stash on the PS.

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            • #66
              In havn't read through this thread and maybe this question is premature:

              Is their some general consensus among Packerrats in terms of (if TT was to target a specific position) seems irrelevant as I'm being informed here that TT always picks BPA.....but all the same:

              What position do we have most need of strengthening at the NO. 1 pick?

              The OL ie a Tackle or with Sam Shields on the shelf with injuries...a CB.

              How about a stud TE? Is there such a thing you might classify as a stud and worthy of a first?

              I realize this sort of analysis is iffy at best given we're not sure where the Packers will pick and we need to be thinking Super Bowl as Packer fans.

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              Footnote:

              Tony 'O'......will say we have the 32nd pick....of course

              A heads up for any of you unaware of this fact that's certainly more TRUTH not:

              Arizona Cardinals HC Bruce Arians. This fuecker is fuecking tough.

              I describe him (Bruce Arians) as Tom Coughlin PLUS...PLUS.

              This MAN Arians....is our biggest challenge Vs the Cardinals.

              Mike McCarthy Vs Bruce Arians .....a tough ass. cool MAN. sexy. bad ass blue collared...cleans up good...hell raising ... won't die easy... Hell cat out of the wood's... mean spirited psycho strangler...... you'll ever encounter as an opponent in Pro Sports.

              Bruce Arians has charisma....and won't go down easy. He'll curse you to a loss.

              Bruce Arians is a Coach's Coach:

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              • #67
                Right now I would say that the deepest position in the first round would be defensive linemen. If Thompson is forced to either reach on a need position or draft the most talented player I could see him going defensive line, or at least I would if I was the GM. In fact this draft will be heavy on defensive talent in the first round. Unfortunately for Packer fans there is only one solid first round middle linebacker in the draft, but that doesn't mean they cant address the position in later rounds, but to find a player ready to start is probably not gonna happen.

                Tyler Matakevich, ILB Temple: is an instinctive player and will take on blocks, seems to be a decent blitzer, but as all white kids go he is not super athletic according to CBSSPORTS.COM. They have a third round grade of him. Seems like a decent pick that would not disappoint but would probably never wow anyone.

                The already mentioned Scooby Wright, ILB Arizona: plays in the Wildcats 3-3-5 defense which is similar to some of the schemes run by Dom Capers. He apparently likes to work out and has all the tools physically except a narrow bottom half cbssports.com. Injury is a concern, not so much the foot but I am personally concerned with any young athlete that damages the meniscus. In my opinion that is one of the worst knee injuries you can have. I think he is a boom or bust pick that some team will go after in the second round if he is able to test either at the combine or at a pro day, as long as he tests reasonably well. He has the name and like I said ILB is weak position in this draft.

                Jared Norris, ILB Utah: another non athletic white guy that lacks that speed to cover. Might have some skills in a 3-4 defense, he is a bigger bloke at 240 pounds. To be honest I don't know what you are going to get out of him, might not be worth drafting until the 5th or 6th round.

                Blake Martinez, ILB Stanford: smart and instinctive he could probably make something of himself at the next level. decent in coverage 3-4 round.
                Last edited by Deputy Nutz; 01-14-2016, 02:10 PM.

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                • #68
                  there is only one solid first round middle linebacker in the draft
                  Who? Ragland? Jaylon Smith?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                    Who? Ragland? Jaylon Smith?
                    http://walterfootball.com/draft2016ILB.php
                    Ragland. Not sure how early teams will be willing to take Smith because of the knee injury.

                    In my opinion, Smith is exactly what the Packers defense needs.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #70
                      Add Mel Kiper to the list of people who have the packers going DL with their 1st round pick - Austin Johnson - DT - Penn State http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...austin-johnson
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #71
                        Smith is the 1B to Myles Jack's 1A. Ragland is less rangey, with more thump.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          Add Mel Kiper to the list of people who have the packers going DL with their 1st round pick - Austin Johnson - DT - Penn State http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...austin-johnson
                          i would screen so loud at the TV if we go d-line in the first

                          first off, its not even close to our biggest need

                          second, TT absolutely sucks at drafting d lineman early in the draft. stick with drafting them in the mid rounds and later

                          but for some reason 90% of the mocks have us taking one in the first

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            i would screen so loud at the TV if we go d-line in the first

                            first off, its not even close to our biggest need

                            second, TT absolutely sucks at drafting d lineman early in the draft. stick with drafting them in the mid rounds and later

                            but for some reason 90% of the mocks have us taking one in the first
                            If Raji and Guion leave as FAs, it becomes a need.

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                            • #74
                              My guy, Carson Wentz, getting buzz heading into draft season.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                If Raji and Guion leave as FAs, it becomes a need.
                                Bingo. Luckily, this year there seems to be a bunch of good looking Dlinemen in 1st round and beyond. Depending how things fall, I might choose two of them.
                                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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